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Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:12:47 +0530
From:	Keerthy <a0393675@...com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
CC:	Keerthy <j-keerthy@...com>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<edubezval@...il.com>, <grygorii.strashko@...com>, <nm@...com>,
	<linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	<joel@....id.au>, <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>, <peterz@...radead.org>,
	<dyoung@...hat.com>, <josh@...htriplett.org>, <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] reboot: Backup orderly_poweroff

Hi Ingo,

On Thursday 14 January 2016 03:39 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Keerthy <a0393675@...com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ingo,
>>
>> On Thursday 14 January 2016 02:35 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>
>>> * Keerthy <j-keerthy@...com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> orderly_poweroff is triggered when a graceful shutdown
>>>> of system is desired. This may be used in many critical states of the
>>>> kernel such as when subsystems detects conditions such as critical
>>>> temperature conditions. However, in certain conditions in system
>>>> boot up sequences like those in the middle of driver probes being
>>>> initiated, userspace will be unable to power off the system in a clean
>>>> manner and leaves the system in a critical state. In cases like these,
>>>> the /sbin/poweroff will return success (having forked off to attempt
>>>> powering off the system. However, the system overall will fail to
>>>> completely poweroff (since other modules will be probed) and the system
>>>> is still functional with no userspace (since that would have shut itself
>>>> off).
>>>>
>>>> However, there is no clean way of detecting such failure of userspace
>>>> powering off the system. In such scenarios, it is necessary for a backup
>>>> workqueue to be able to force a shutdown of the system when orderly
>>>> shutdown is not successful after a configurable time period.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Keerthy <j-keerthy@...com>
>>>> Suggested-by: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@...il.com>
>>>> Reported-by: Nishanth Menon <nm@...com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Links to previous discussion can be found here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg124925.html
>>>>
>>>> Boot tested on DRA7.
>>>>
>>>> changes in v2:
>>>>
>>>> 	* Changed #ifdef to #if CONFIG_SHUTDOWN_BACKUP_DELAY_MS
>>>>
>>>>   arch/Kconfig    |  7 +++++++
>>>>   kernel/reboot.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>   2 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> Index: linux/arch/Kconfig
>>>> ===================================================================
>>>> --- linux.orig/arch/Kconfig	2016-01-11 15:26:07.732173131 +0530
>>>> +++ linux/arch/Kconfig	2016-01-11 15:26:07.728173205 +0530
>>>> @@ -37,6 +37,18 @@
>>>>   	def_bool y
>>>>   	depends on PERF_EVENTS && HAVE_PERF_EVENTS_NMI && !PPC64
>>>>
>>>> +config SHUTDOWN_BACKUP_DELAY_MS
>>>> +	int "Backup shutdown delay in milli-seconds"
>>>> +	default 0
>>>> +	help
>>>> +	  The number of milliseconds to delay before backup workqueue
>>>> +	  executes attempting to poweroff the system after the
>>>> +	  orderly_poweroff function has failed to complete.
>>>> +
>>>> +	  If set to 0, the backup workqueue is not active. The value
>>>> +	  should be conservatively configured based on userspace latencies
>>>> +	  expected for a given system.
>>>
>>> I don't really understand this. In what circumstances can a reboot fail?
>>>
>>> I think that is what should be fixed: a reboot should never fail, instead of
>>> introducing some sort of fragile timeout based method.
>>
>> Here is the complete description of the scenario which was reported by Nishanth
>> who encountered the issue. The link has bootlogs and description of the exact
>> case which led to this patch.
>>
>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg124923.html
>
> it's a reply in the middle of a discussion ...
>
> What I managed to decode is that this:
>
> static int __orderly_poweroff(bool force)
> {
>          int ret;
>
>          ret = run_cmd(poweroff_cmd);
>
>          if (ret && force) {
>                  pr_warn("Failed to start orderly shutdown: forcing the issue\n");
>
>                  /*
>                   * I guess this should try to kick off some daemon to sync and
>                   * poweroff asap.  Or not even bother syncing if we're doing an
>                   * emergency shutdown?
>                   */
>                  emergency_sync();
>                  kernel_power_off();
>          }
>
>          return ret;
> }
>
> could fail to actually power the system off, if the run_cmd(poweroff_cmd)
> 'succeeds', but due to a user-space bug it does not actually call the real
> poweroff system call?
>

I tried to simulate the issue.

In the probe function of drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ti-bandgap.c
ti_bandgap_probe i call

orderly_poweroff(true);

This is while driver probes are still on going. I observe that
ret = run_cmd(poweroff_cmd);

ret is a non-zero value and we enter the if condition:

Even after the

emergency_sync();
kernel_power_off();

calls

the console remained active in weird state.


> Thanks,
>
> 	Ingo
>

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