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Message-ID: <20160129052838.GD4820@swordfish>
Date:	Fri, 29 Jan 2016 14:28:38 +0900
From:	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@...il.com>
To:	Peter Hurley <peter@...leysoftware.com>
Cc:	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@...il.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@...il.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@....com>,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, mingo@...nel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, akinobu.mita@...il.com, jack@...e.cz,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] lib/spinlock_debug.c: prevent a recursive cycle in
 the debug code

On (01/28/16 20:32), Peter Hurley wrote:
[..]
> You're assuming that Byungchul's patch is relevant to the recursion
> he witnessed. There are several paths into spin_dump().

yes. I was speaking in the context of Byungchul's report.

> Here's one that doesn't wait at all:
> 
> vprintk_emit()
>   console_trylock()
>     down_trylock()
>       raw_spin_lock_irqsave()
>         ...             
>           do_raw_spin_lock()
>             debug_spin_lock_before()
>               SPIN_BUG_ON()
>                 spin_bug()
>                    spin_dump()
>                      printk()
>                        ** RINSE AND REPEAT **

ah, yes, agree.

> >> Additionally, what if the console_sem is simply corrupted?
> >> A livelock with no output ever is not very helpful.
> > 
> > if it's corrupted then this is not a spinlock debug problem.
> > at all.
> 
> I don't follow you.
> 

indeed very misleading, sorry, almost didn't sleep last nigh.
removing SPIN_BUG_ON entirely is not my logic, not all. printk locks are
special, I agree. in context of the proposed patch - we can't disable
spin_dump() for printk locks if they were corrupted. for printk locks it's
over, nothing will be printed anymore. the only thing that _may be_ will
help is zap_locks(), but not 100% guaranteed... we can panic the system,
probably, if printk locks are getting corrupted, but panic() will not do the
trick in general case, at this point -- console_unlock() takes the logbuf_lock,
which can be corrupted. apart from that console driver can be in a weird state.

I sort of proposed to update console_flush_on_panic()  (called from panic())
function a while ago to do zap_locks(), so in this case declaring BUG() from
spinlock debug when we see 'bad' printk-related locks will have better
chances to work out (assuming that console driver(-s) is (are) not against
us).

[..]
> This was in reference to a problem with spin lock recursion that
> can't print. The spin lock recursion deadlocks, but you'll never
> see the diagnostic because the driver is already holding the lock
> (not from printk() but from some other code).
> 
> The printk doesn't even need to be directly related to the
> console driver itself, but some other thing that the console driver
> depends on while holding the spin lock that it claims for console output.

aha, ok. yes, this is certainly possible.

> > this is not a case of printk recursion and it should be handled
> > just fine. console drivers are called under console_sem only.
> > logbuf lock is unlocked. vprintk_emit() adds message to the logbuf,
> > calls console_trylock() (which of course does not lock anything)
> > and returns back to console_driver code.
> 
> Not if locks are zapped because printk() recognizes a recursion.
> Note console driver's locks are not zapped. For example,

yes, I proposed to add a ->reset callback to struct console
a while ago, and to do a console reset loop in zap_locks()

zap_locks:
...
	for_each_console(con)
		if (con->reset)
			con->reset(con)

that would re-init console drivers (locks, etc.).


IOW, panic() does zap_locks(), zap_locks() zap the locks and
resets the console drivers. that's sort of what I have in my
private kernels.

[..]
> > the only case when we really have a printk recursion is when
> > someone calls printk() from within the vprintk_emit() logbuf_lock
> > area.
> 
> Not true.
> 
> A while back, Jan Kara reworked the call site around
> console_trylock_from_printk(). Hung with no output under unknown
> conditions [1].
> 
> Never solved, but obviously means there are unhandled recursions.

aha, ok.

	-ss

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