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Date:	Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:51:57 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
Cc:	Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@...aro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@....com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] cpufreq: Replace timers with utilization update
 callbacks

On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:05:05PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > One concern I had was, given that the lone scheduler update hook is in
> > > CFS, is it possible for governor updates to be stalled due to RT or DL
> > > task activity?
> > 
> > I don't think they may be completely stalled, but I'd prefer Peter to
> > answer that as he suggested to do it this way.
> 
> In any case, if that concern turns out to be significant in practice, it may
> be addressed like in the appended modification of patch [1/3] from the $subject
> series.
> 
> With that things look like before from the cpufreq side, but the other sched
> classes also get a chance to trigger a cpufreq update.  The drawback is the
> cpu_clock() call instead of passing the time value from update_load_avg(), but
> I guess we can live with that if necessary.
> 
> FWIW, this modification doesn't seem to break things on my test machine.

Not really pretty though. It blows a bit that you require this callback
to be periodic (in order to replace a timer).

Ideally we'd not have to call this if state doesn't change.


> +++ linux-pm/include/linux/sched.h
> @@ -3207,4 +3207,11 @@ static inline unsigned long rlimit_max(u
>  	return task_rlimit_max(current, limit);
>  }
>  
> +void cpufreq_update_util(unsigned long util, unsigned long max);

Didn't you have a timestamp in there?

> +
> +static inline void cpufreq_kick(void)
> +{
> +	cpufreq_update_util(ULONG_MAX, ULONG_MAX);
> +}
> +
>  #endif

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