Message-ID: <20160212181640.4eabb85f@thinkpad>
Date:	Fri, 12 Feb 2016 18:16:40 +0100
From:	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@...ibm.com>
To:	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>
Cc:	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@...r.kernel.org,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] random kernel crashes after THP rework on s390 (maybe
 also on PowerPC and ARM)

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 16:57:27 +0100
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com> wrote:

> On 02/12/2016 04:41 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 08:57:02PM +0100, Gerald Schaefer wrote:
> >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 21:09:42 +0200
> >> "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 07:22:23PM +0100, Gerald Schaefer wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sebastian Ott reported random kernel crashes beginning with v4.5-rc1 and
> >>>> he also bisected this to commit 61f5d698 "mm: re-enable THP". Further
> >>>> review of the THP rework patches, which cannot be bisected, revealed
> >>>> commit fecffad "s390, thp: remove infrastructure for handling splitting PMDs"
> >>>> (and also similar commits for other archs).
> >>>>
> >>>> This commit removes the THP splitting bit and also the architecture
> >>>> implementation of pmdp_splitting_flush(), which took care of the IPI for
> >>>> fast_gup serialization. The commit message says
> >>>>
> >>>>     pmdp_splitting_flush() is not needed too: on splitting PMD we will do
> >>>>     pmdp_clear_flush() + set_pte_at().  pmdp_clear_flush() will do IPI as
> >>>>     needed for fast_gup
> >>>>
> >>>> The assumption that a TLB flush will also produce an IPI is wrong on s390,
> >>>> and maybe also on other architectures, and I thought that this was actually
> >>>> the main reason for having an arch-specific pmdp_splitting_flush().
> >>>>
> >>>> At least PowerPC and ARM also had an individual implementation of
> >>>> pmdp_splitting_flush() that used kick_all_cpus_sync() instead of a TLB
> >>>> flush to send the IPI, and those were also removed. Putting the arch
> >>>> maintainers and mailing lists on cc to verify.
> >>>>
> >>>> On s390 this will break the IPI serialization against fast_gup, which
> >>>> would certainly explain the random kernel crashes, please revert or fix
> >>>> the pmdp_splitting_flush() removal.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for that.
> >>>
> >>> I believe, the problem was already addressed for PowerPC:
> >>>
> >>> http://lkml.kernel.org/g/454980831-16631-1-git-send-email-aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> >>>
> >>> I think kick_all_cpus_sync() in arch-specific pmdp_invalidate() would do
> >>> the trick, right?
> >>
> >> Hmm, not sure about that. After pmdp_invalidate(), a pmd_none() check in
> >> fast_gup will still return false, because the pmd is not empty (at least
> >> on s390). So I don't see spontaneously how it will help fast_gup to break
> >> out to the slow path in case of THP splitting.
> > 
> > What pmdp_flush_direct() does in pmdp_invalidate()? It's hard to unwrap for me :-/
> > Does it make the pmd !pmd_present()?
> 
> It uses the idte instruction, which in an atomic fashion flushes the associated
> TLB entry and changes the value of the pmd entry to invalid. This comes from the
> HW requirement to not  change a PTE/PMD that might be still in use, other than 
> with special instructions that does the tlb handling and the invalidation together.

Correct, and it does _not_ make the pmd !pmd_present(), that would only be the
case after a _clear_flush(). It only marks the pmd as invalid and flushes,
so that it cannot generate a new TLB entry before the following pmd_populate(),
but it keeps its other content. This is to fulfill the requirements outlined in
the comment in mm/huge_memory.c before the call to pmdp_invalidate(). And
independent from that comment, we would need such an _invalidate() or
_clear_flush() on s390 before the pmd_populate() because of the HW details
that Christian described.

Reading the comment again, I do now notice that it also says "mark the current
pmd notpresent", which we cannot do w/o losing the huge and (formerly) splitting
bits, but it also shouldn't be needed to provide the "single TLB guarantee" that
is required from the comment. So, a pmd_present() check on s390 in this state
would still return true. Not sure yet if this is a problem, need more thinking,
this behavior was already present before the THP rework but maybe it was OK
before and is not OK now.

At least for fast_gup this should not be a problem though.

> (It also does some some other magic to the attach_count, which might hold off
> finish_arch_post_lock_switch while some flushing is happening, but this should
> be unrelated here)
> 
> 
> > I'm also confused by pmd_none() is equal to !pmd_present() on s390. Hm?
> 
> Don't know, Gerald or Martin?

The implementation frequently changes depending on how many new bits Martin
needs to squeeze out :-)
We don't have a _PAGE_PRESENT bit for pmds, so pmd_present() just checks if the
entry is not empty. pmd_none() of course does the opposite, it checks if it is
empty.

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