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Message-ID: <20160217202829.GO6719@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:28:29 -0800
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Ross Green <rgkernel@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	mingo@...nel.org, jiangshanlai@...il.com, dipankar@...ibm.com,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
	josh@...htriplett.org, tglx@...utronix.de, rostedt@...dmis.org,
	dhowells@...hat.com, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	dvhart@...ux.intel.com,
	Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	oleg@...hat.com, pranith kumar <bobby.prani@...il.com>
Subject: Re: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 08:45:54PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:28:17AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:45:49PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:11:55PM +1100, Ross Green wrote:
> > > > Continued testing with the latest linux-4.5-rc3 release.
> > > > 
> > > > Please find attached a copy of traces from dmesg:
> > > > 
> > > > There is a lot more debug and trace data so hopefully this will shed
> > > > some light on what might be happening here.
> > > > 
> > > > My testing remains run a series of simple benchmarks, let that run to
> > > > completion and then leave the system idle away with just a few daemons
> > > > running.
> > > > 
> > > > the self detected stalls in this instance turned up after a days run time.
> > > > There were  NO heavy artificial computational loads on the machine.
> > > 
> > > It does indeed look quiet on that dmesg for a good long time.
> > > 
> > > The following insanely crude not-for-mainline hack -might- be producing
> > > good results in my testing.  It will take some time before I can claim
> > > statistically different results.  But please feel free to give it a go
> > > in the meantime.  (Thanks to Al Viro for pointing me in this direction.)
> 
> Your case was special in that is was hotplug triggering it, right?

Yes, it has thus far only shown up with CPU hotplug enabled.

> I was auditing the hotplug paths involved when I fell ill two weeks ago,
> and have not really made any progress on that because of that :/

I have always said that being sick is bad for one's health, but I didn't
realize that it could be bad for the kernel's health as well.  ;-)

> I'll go have another look, I had a vague feeling for a race back then,
> lets see if I can still remember how..

I believe that I can -finally- get an ftrace_dump() to happen within
10-20 milliseconds of the problem, which just might be soon enough
after the problem to gather some useful information.  I am currently
testing this theory with "ftrace trace_event=sched_waking,sched_wakeup"
boot arguments on a two-hour run.

If this works out, what would be a useful set of trace events for me
to capture?

							Thanx, Paul

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