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Date:	Thu, 18 Feb 2016 13:23:37 +0200
From:	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...el.com>
To:	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@....samsung.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...ll.ch>
Cc:	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Keith Packard <keithp@...thp.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-media@...r.kernel.org, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl>
Subject: Re: Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@....samsung.com> wrote:
> For simple documents like the one produced by kernel-doc, I guess
> all markup languages would work equally.
>
> The problem is for complex documents like the media kAPI one, where
> the document was written to produce a book. So, it uses some complex
> features found at DocBook. One of such features we use extensively
> is the capability of having a table with per-line columns. This way,
> we can produce things like:
>
> V4L2_CID_COLOR_KILLER	boolean	Enable the color killer (i. e. force a black & white image in case of a weak video signal).
> V4L2_CID_COLORFX	enum	Selects a color effect. The following values are defined:
> 				V4L2_COLORFX_NONE 		Color effect is disabled.
> 				V4L2_COLORFX_ANTIQUE 		An aging (old photo) effect.
> 				V4L2_COLORFX_ART_FREEZE 	Frost color effect.
>
> In the above example, we have a main 3 columns table, and we embed
> a 2 columns table at the third field of V4L2_CID_COLORFX to represent
> possible values for this menu control.
>
> See https://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/control.html for the
> complete output of it.
>
> This is used extensively inside the media DocBook, and properly
> supporting it is one of our major concerns.
>
> Are there any way to represent those things with the markup
> languages currently being analyzed?
>
> Converting those tables will likely require manual work, as I don't
> think automatic tools will properly handle it, specially since we
> use some DocBook macros to help creating such tables.

Since I've let myself be told that asciidoc handles tables better than
reStructuredText, I tested this a bit with the presumably inferior one.

rst has two table types, simple tables and grid tables [1]. It seems
like grid tables can do pretty much anything, but they can be cumbersome
to work with. So I tried to check what can be done with simple tables.

Here's a sample, converted using rst2html (Sphinx will be prettier, but
rst2html works for simple things like this):

https://people.freedesktop.org/~jani/v4l-table-within-table.rst
https://people.freedesktop.org/~jani/v4l-table-within-table.html

Rather than using nested tables, you might want to consider using
definition lists within tables:

https://people.freedesktop.org/~jani/v4l-definition-list-within-table.rst
https://people.freedesktop.org/~jani/v4l-definition-list-within-table.html

You be the judge, but I think this is workable.

BR,
Jani.


[1] http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#tables


-- 
Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Technology Center

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