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Message-ID: <20160221041540.GA24735@kmo-pixel>
Date:	Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:15:40 -0900
From:	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...il.com>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@...hat.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, axboe@...com,
	hch@....de, neilb@...e.de, martin.petersen@...cle.com,
	dpark@...teo.net, ming.l@....samsung.com, dm-devel@...hat.com,
	ming.lei@...onical.com, agk@...hat.com, jkosina@...e.cz,
	geoff@...radead.org, jim@...n.com, pjk1939@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	minchan@...nel.org, ngupta@...are.org, oleg.drokin@...el.com,
	andreas.dilger@...el.com
Subject: Re: 4.4-final: 28 bioset threads on small notebook

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 09:55:19PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > You're directing this concern to the wrong person.
> > > > 
> > > > I already told you DM is _not_ contributing any extra "bioset" threads
> > > > (ever since commit dbba42d8a).
> > > 
> > > Well, sorry about that. Note that l-k is on the cc list, so hopefully
> > > the right person sees it too.
> > > 
> > > Ok, let me check... it seems that 
> > > 54efd50bfd873e2dbf784e0b21a8027ba4299a3e is responsible, thus Kent
> > > Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...il.com> is to blame.
> > > 
> > > Um, and you acked the patch, so you are partly responsible.
> > 
> > You still haven't shown you even understand the patch so don't try to
> > blame me for one aspect you don't like.
> 
> Well, I don't have to understand the patch to argue its wrong.
> 
> > > > But in general, these "bioset" threads are a side-effect of the
> > > > late-bio-splitting support.  So is your position on it: "I don't like
> > > > that feature if it comes at the expense of adding resources I can _see_
> > > > for something I (naively?) view as useless"?
> > > 
> > > > Just seems... naive... but you could be trying to say something else
> > > > entirely.
> > > 
> > > > Anyway, if you don't like something: understand why it is there and then
> > > > try to fix it to your liking (without compromising why it was there to
> > > > begin with).
> > > 
> > > Well, 28 kernel threads on a notebook is a bug, plain and simple. Do
> > > you argue it is not?
> > 
> > Just implies you have 28 request_queues right?  You clearly have
> > something else going on on your notebook than the average notebook
> > user.
> 
> I'm not using the modules, but otherwise I'm not doing anything
> special. How many request_queues should I expect? How many do you have
> on your notebook?

It's one rescuer thread per bio_set, not one per request queue, so 28 is more
than I'd expect but there's lots of random bio_sets so it's not entirely
unexpected.

It'd be better to have the rescuers be per request_queue, just someone is going
to have to write the code.

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