linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 00/12] pwm: add support for atomic update

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Message-ID: <CAD=FV=WP+=vsKHj3aakdYwE4Xedwd=uya+ma22q-s+MsBTon7w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:03:44 -0800
From:	Doug Anderson <dianders@...gle.com>
To:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
Cc:	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>,
	Heiko Stübner <heiko@...ech.de>,
	linux-pwm <linux-pwm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@...il.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>, linux-fbdev@...r.kernel.org,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@...il.com>,
	Richard Purdie <rpurdie@...ys.net>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@...sung.com>,
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	Uwe Kleine-König 
	<u.kleine-koenig@...gutronix.de>, Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/12] pwm: add support for atomic update

Mark,

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:15:09AM -0800, Doug Anderson wrote:
>
>> Note that historically I remember that Linus Torvalds has stated that
>> there is no stable API within the Linux kernel and that forcing the
>> in-kernel API to never change was bad for software development.  I
>> tracked down my memory and found
>> <http://lwn.net/1999/0211/a/lt-binary.html>.  Linus is rabid about not
>> breaking userspace, but in general there's no strong requirement to
>> never change the driver API inside the kernel.  That being said,
>> changing the driver API causes a lot of churn, so presumably changing
>> it in a backward compatible way (like adding to the API instead of
>> changing it) will make things happier.
>
> You do need to fix the users though, change is fine but you can't cause
> people's systems to break.

Yes, of course!  :)  Thanks for clarifying.

-Doug