lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:26:13 +0100
From:	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] memremap: add arch specific hook for MEMREMAP_WB mappings

On 23 February 2016 at 13:03, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org> wrote:
> On 23 February 2016 at 12:58, Russell King - ARM Linux
> <linux@....linux.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 09:35:24PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>> OK, thanks for the historical context.
>>>
>>> So what is your opinion on this series, i.e., to wire up memremap() to
>>> remap arbitrary memory regions into the vmalloc area with MT_MEMORY_RW
>>> attributes, and at the same time lift the restriction that the region
>>> must be disjoint from memory covered by lowmem or kmap?
>>
>> The historical context is still present, because pxa2xx-flash has
>> been converted to use memremap() from ioremap_cache() - possibly
>> inappropriately.
>>
>> I've already described the semantics of ioremap_cache(), which are
>> to always create a cacheable mapping irrespective of the system
>> memory mapping type.  However, memremap() says that MEMREMAP_WB
>> matches system RAM, which on ARM it doesn't right now.
>>
>
> Indeed. Hence this series, to decouple memremap(MEMREMAP_WB) from
> ioremap_cache() for ARM
>
>> Changing it to MT_MEMORY_RW would satisfy that comment against
>> memremap(), but at the same time changes what happens with
>> pxa2xx-flash - the memory region (which is not system RAM) then
>> changes with the cache status of system RAM.
>>
>> So, I'm not that happy about the memremap() stuff right now, and
>> I don't like the idea of making memremap() conform to its stated
>> requirements without first preventing pxa2xx-flash being affected
>> by such a change.
>>
>
> Actually, my change fixes this issue, since it will cause memremap()
> to always create MT_MEMORY_RW mappings, and not fallback to
> ioremap_cache() for ranges that are not covered by lowmem.
>
>> Perhaps we need to reinstate the original ioremap_cached() API for
>> pxa2xx-flash, and then switch memremap() to MT_MEMORY_RW - that
>> would seem to result in the expected behaviour by all parties.
>>
>
> I think we can simply revert the change to pxa2xx-flash if it is
> deemed inappropriate.

OK, I see what you mean. I find it unfortunate that ioremap_cache()
instances are blindly being replaced with memremap(), and I wonder if
this wasted test by and/or cc'ed to people who can actually test this
driver. Dan?

Anyway, I don't think it makes sense to stipulate at the generic level
that ioremap_cache() and memremap(MEMREMAP_WB) shall be the same, and
deprecating it is a bit premature since the cross-architecturally
loosely defined semantics of ioremap_cache() can never be replaced 1:1
with what memremap() promises.

So what I suggest is that I revert the change to pxa2xx-flash as a new
1/3 in this series, and put these existing two on top to decouple
memremap(MEMREMAP_WB) from ioremap_cache() entirely.

Thanks,
Ard.

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ