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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 00:32:19 +0100
From: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@...musvillemoes.dk>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] getcpu_cache system call: cache CPU number of running thread
On Wed, Feb 24 2016, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com> wrote:
>
> Typically, a library or application will keep the cpu number
> cache in a thread-local storage variable, or other memory
> areas belonging to each thread. It is recommended to perform
> a volatile read of the cpu number cache to prevent the com‐
> piler from doing load tearing. An alternative approach is to
> read the cpu number cache from inline assembly in a single
> instruction.
>
> Each thread is responsible for registering its own cpu number
> cache. Only one cpu cache address can be registered per
> thread.
>
> The symbol __getcpu_cache_tls is recommended to be used
> across libraries and applications wishing to register a
> thread-local getcpu_cache. The attribute "weak" is recom‐
> mended when declaring this variable in libraries. Applica‐
> tions can choose to define their own version of this symbol
> without the weak attribute as a performance improvement.
>
> In a typical usage scenario, the thread registering the cpu
> number cache will be performing reads from that cache. It is
> however also allowed to read the cpu number cache from other
> threads. The cpu number cache updates performed by the kernel
> provide single-copy atomicity semantics, which guarantee that
> other threads performing single-copy atomic reads of the cpu
> number cache will always observe a consistent value.
>
> Memory registered as cpu number cache should never be deallo‐
> cated before the thread which registered it exits: specifi‐
> cally, it should not be freed, and the library containing the
> registered thread-local storage should not be dlclose'd.
Maybe spell out the consequence if this is violated - since the SIGSEGV
only happens on migration, it may take a while to strike.
Random thoughts: The current implementation ensures that getcpu_cache is
"idempotent" from within a single thread - once set, it can never get
unset nor set to some other pointer. I think that can be useful, since
it means a library can reliably use the TLS variable itself (initialized
with some negative number) as an indicator of whether
getcpu_cache(GETCPU_CACHE_SET) has been called. So if a single test on a
fast path where the library would need to load __getcpu_cache_tls anyway
is acceptable, it can avoid requiring some library init function to be
called in each thread - which can sometimes be hard to arrange. Is this
something we want to guarantee - that is, will we never implement
GETCPU_CACHE_UNSET or a "force" flag to _SET? Either way, I think we
should spend a few words on it to avoid the current behaviour becoming
accidental ABI.
In another thread:
> However, there are other use-cases for having a fast mechanism for
> reading the current CPU number, besides restartable sequences. For
> instance, it can be used by glibc to implement a faster sched_getcpu.
Will glibc do that? It may be a little contentious for glibc to claim a
unique resource such as task_struct::cpu_cache for itself, even if
everybody is supposed to use the same symbol. Hm, maybe one could say
that if an application does define the symbol __getcpu_cache_tls (which
is techically in the implementation namespace), that gives glibc (and
any other library) license to do getcpu_cache(SET, &&__getcpu_cache_tls)
(pseudo-code, of course). If a library initializes its own weak version
with -2 it can check whether the application defined
__getcpu_cache_tls. Ok, I'm probably overthinking this...
Rasmus
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