Message-ID: <56D5B42E.8070306@hurleysoftware.com>
Date:	Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:24:30 -0800
From:	Peter Hurley <peter@...leysoftware.com>
To:	Aleksey Makarov <aleksey.makarov@...aro.org>,
	"Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@...el.com>,
	"linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>
Cc:	"linux-serial@...r.kernel.org" <linux-serial@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@...aro.org>,
	Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@...aro.org>,
	Al Stone <ahs3@...hat.com>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@...eaurora.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] ACPI: change __init to __ref for
 early_acpi_os_unmap_memory()

On 02/22/2016 06:35 AM, Aleksey Makarov wrote:
> On 02/19/2016 06:25 PM, Peter Hurley wrote:
>> On 02/19/2016 02:42 AM, Aleksey Makarov wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> Thank you for review.
>>>
>>> On 02/19/2016 01:03 AM, Peter Hurley wrote:
>>>> On 02/17/2016 07:36 PM, Zheng, Lv wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Aleksey Makarov [mailto:aleksey.makarov@...aro.org]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] ACPI: change __init to __ref for
>>>>>> early_acpi_os_unmap_memory()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Lv,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/17/2016 05:51 AM, Zheng, Lv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> early_acpi_os_unmap_memory() is marked as __init because it calls
>>>>>>>>> __acpi_unmap_table(), but only when acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is not
>>>>>> set.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set in __init acpi_early_init()
>>>>>>>>> so it is safe to call early_acpi_os_unmap_memory() from anywhere
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need this function to be non-__init because we need access to
>>>>>>>>> some tables at unpredictable time--it may be before or after
>>>>>>>>> acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set.  For example, SPCR (Serial Port Console
>>>>>>>>> Redirection) table is needed each time a new console is registered.
>>>>>>>>> It can be quite early (console_initcall) or when a module is inserted.
>>>>>>>>> When this table accessed before acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set,
>>>>>>>>> the pointer should be unmapped.  This is exactly what this function
>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>> [Lv Zheng]
>>>>>>>> Why don't you use another API instead of early_acpi_os_unmap_memory()
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> case you want to unmap things in any cases.
>>>>>>>> acpi_os_unmap_memory() should be the one to match this purpose.
>>>>>>>> It checks acpi_gbl_ppermanent_mmap in acpi_os_unmap_iomem().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I understand, there exist two steps in ACPI initialization:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Before acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set, tables received with
>>>>>> acpi_get_table_with_size()
>>>>>>    are mapped by early_memremap().  If a subsystem gets such a pointer it
>>>>>> should be unmapped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2  After acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set this pointer should not be unmapped
>>>>>> at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> This statement is wrong, this should be:
>>>>> As long as there is a __reference__ to the mapped table, the pointer should not be unmapped.
>>>>> In fact, we have a series to introduce acpi_put_table() to achieve this.
>>>>> So your argument is wrong from very first point.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That exactly what early_acpi_os_unmap_memory() does--it checks
>>>>>> acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap.
>>>>>> If I had used acpi_os_unmap_memory() after acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap had
>>>>>> been set,
>>>>>> it would have tried to free that pointer with an oops (actually, I checked that
>>>>>> and got that oops).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So using acpi_os_unmap_memory() is not an option here, but
>>>>>> early_acpi_os_unmap_memory()
>>>>>> match perfectly.
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> I don't think so.
>>>>> For definition block tables, we know for sure there will always be references, until "Unload" opcode is invoked by the AML interpreter.
>>>>> But for the data tables, OSPMs should use them in this way:
>>>>> 1. map the table
>>>>> 2. parse the table and convert it to OS specific structures
>>>>> 3. unmap the table
>>>>> This helps to shrink virtual memory address space usages.
>>>>>
>>>>> So from this point of view, all data tables should be unmapped right after being parsed.
>>>>> Why do you need the map to be persistent in the kernel address space?
>>>>> You can always map a small table, but what if the table size is very big?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And in fact early_acpi_os_unmap_memory() should be removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so -- I have explained why.  It does different thing.
>>>>>> Probably it (and/or other functions in that api) should be renamed.
>>>>>>
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> Just let me ask one more question.
>>>>> eary_acpi_os_unmap_memory() is not used inside of ACPICA.
>>>>> How ACPICA can work with just acpi_os_unmap_memory()?
>>>>> You can check drivers/acpi/tbxxx.c.
>>>>> Especially: acpi_tb_release_temp_table() and the code invoking it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Lv Zheng]
>>>>>>> One more thing is:
>>>>>>> If you can't switch your driver to use acpi_os_unmap_memory() instead of
>>>>>> early_acpi_os_unmap_memory(),
>>>>>>> then it implies that your driver does have a defect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still don't understand what defect, sorry.
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> If you can't ensure this sequence for using the data tables:
>>>>> 1. map the table
>>>>> 2. parse the table and convert it to OS specific structure
>>>>> 3. unmap the table
>>>>> It implies there is a bug in the driver or a bug in the ACPI subsystem core.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly.
>>>>
>>>> The central problem here is the way Aleksey is trying to hookup a console.
>>>>
>>>> What should be happening in this series is:
>>>> 1. early map SPCR
>>>> 2. parse the SPCR table
>>>> 3. call add_preferred_console() to add the SPCR console to the console table
>>>> 4. unmap SPCR
>>>
>>> This does not work.  
>>>
>>> SPCR specifies address of the console, but add_preferred_console() accepts
>>> name of console and its index.  There are no general method to translate address
>>> to name at such an early stage.
>>
>>
>> 	add_preferred_console(uart, 0, "io,0x3f8,115200");
> 
> First argument here should be (char *), the name of the console.
> We can not tell it just from the SPCR ACPI table without
> introducing new made up names and writting which/case that should be 
> supported all the linux lifetime.

As I explained before, you don't use "new made up names". You use the earlycon
name which will "be supported all the linux lifetime".


> I am also not quite shure I can tell the number of tty line (the 0 argument)
> just from the address.

Look at univ8250_console_match() for how that works.


> Did you mean "uart" here?  As far as I can see, this would match the *earlycon*,
> not a regular console, that is not what this patch is about.
> It is about selecting regular (non-boot) consoles.

Obviously.

But again, as I explained already, console matching is already performed
for existing firmware that specifies console by i/o type and address.

Back at your first version of this series, I told you to review
existing users of add_preferred_console() so you would understand how
this works. Please go do so, so that I don't need to keep explaining
how this works over and over again.


> I think translating address to string and then parsing it again is not
> unaceptable, but definitely worse than the approach in my patch, where
> I compare it directly.
> 
>> This will start a console with the 8250 driver. I've already pointed
>> this out to you in an earlier review. This is what existing firmware
>> already does.
>>
>> This is also the method you will use to start an earlycon from the
>> DBG2 table, by additionally calling setup_earlycon().
>>
>>
>>> There is another reason why I prefer to parse SPCR each time a console is registered.
>>> Some consoles can be registered very early in the initialization process and
>>> we have to be sure add_preferred_console() is called before that.
>>
>> However, since you're not adding a preferred console until uart driver
>> loads, there may already be a preferred console selected and running.
>>
>> This leads to weird issues like duplicated output on the serial console
>> when an earlycon is disabled by the dummy VGA/FB console then the
>> serial console starts and reprints the entire boot log on the same
>> terminal the earlycon already printed.
> 
> Yes, misconfigured systems often misbehave.

There's no misconfiguration.


> In this case I would
> question why there is an enabled console (we rely on ACPI to enable it).
> And I probably do not understand the scenario, but 
> - "earlycon is disabled by the dummy VGA/FB console"
> and
> - "earlycon already printed"
> seem a bit contradictory.

bootconsoles are disabled by normal consoles (you should already know this).
earlycon is a bootconsole.
dummy VGA console is a normal console.

So earlycon outputs messages for early boot to the serial console,
then dummy VGA console disables earlycon,
then normal serial console starts, but there's no bootconsole anymore,
so it reprints the boot messages that have accumulated so far, but
to the same serial console that earlycon already printed to.

Part of the reason this happens is because OF doesn't add the serial console
as the preferred console at console_init() but only later at driver probe.

You're repeating the same mistake.


>> Better just to parse both the DBG2 and SPCR tables before or at
>> early param, and add_preferred_consoles then.
> 
> I still don't see why it's better, but I think I explained why it's worse.
> 
>>> Of course, I could just parse it once and cache the results, but
>>> this still requires accessing SPCR before acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap
>>> is set *or* after that.
>>>
>>>> This trivial and unobtrusive method would already have a 8250 console
>>>> running via SPCR. I've already pointed this out in previous reviews.
>>>>
>>>> Further, the above method *will be required anyway* for the DBG2 table to
>>>> start an earlycon, which I've already pointed out in previous reviews.
>>>>
>>>> Then to enable amba-pl011 console via ACPI, add a console match() method
>>>> similar to the 8250 console match() method, univ8250_console_match().
>>>
>>> So are you suggesting a separate method for each possible console?
>>> This is not acceptable.
>>
>> All 1 of them???
> 
> DBG2 specifies these subtypes of serial drivers:
>
> - Fully 16550-compatible
> - 16550 subset compatible with DBGP Revision 1

These two are already done for you in the 8250 driver.
Just call

	add_preferred_console("uart", 0, "io,0x3f8,115200");

with the actual port options specified in the SPCR table.


> - ARM PL011 UART
> - (deprecated) ARM SBSA (2.x only) Generic UART supporting only 32-bit accesses
> - ARM SBSA Generic UART
> - ARM DCC
> - BCM2835

All of these except ARM DCC are variants of the pl011 console.
So write a console match() method for the pl011 console and you're done.

As I wrote, "all 1 of them".


> So it's at least 4 (or 3, I am not sure about ARM DCC) different types and
> the list is open.  We would have to support it.
> 
>> The 8250 driver already does this, so no work for you there.
> 
> "uart" is for boot console, so it is not relevant.  Or did you refer to something else?

Already have repeatedly explained what you need to do to get this
working in the existing framework. Not sure what else you expect here.


>> That leaves you needing to write a trivial match() method for just
>> the amba-pl011 driver.
> 
> Yes, that's probably OK, but in my series drivers should not be modified at all.
> I believe that's better.
> 
>>> Do you suggest making up separate new name (like "uart" for 8250) for each type
>>> of conosole SPCR can specify?
>>
>> These are the documented names of the earlycons, which you'll be using
>> when you add the DGB2 table parsing.
> 
> SPCR is not about earlycons.

Duh.

Again, once you understand how

	add_preferred_console("uart", 0, "io,0x3f8,115200");

starts a *normal console* on whatever tty corresponds to that i/o type
and address, then you'll stop writing statements like this.



>>>> FWIW, PCI earlycon + console support was already submitted once before but
>>>> never picked up by GregKH. I think I'll just grab that and re-submit so
>>>> you would know what to emit for console options in the add_preferred_console().
>>>
>>> Please do.  Or just send a link to to that submission.
>>
>> Ok, will dig through and find it.
>>
>>> Do you mean the Leif Lindholm's patches:
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> https://lkml.kernel.org/g/1441716217-23786-1-git-send-email-leif.lindholm@linaro.org
>>>
>>> He did same thing as I did in my v3 exept 1) he parses ACPI tree to match device
>>> (I just match SPCR against data that struct uart_port already has)
>>> 2) As you are suggesting, he parses SPCR once at a predefined point in initialization.
>>> And that's why his submission is RFC: he had troubles with the order of initialization.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Aleksey Makarov
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Peter Hurley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> There is an early bootup requirement in Linux.
>>>>>>> Maps acquired during the early stage should be freed by the driver during the
>>>>>> early stage.
>>>>>>> And the driver should re-acquire the memory map after booting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly.  That's why I use early_acpi_os_unmap_memory().  The point is that
>>>>>> that code can be
>>>>>> called *before* acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set (at early initialization of for
>>>>>> example 8250 console)
>>>>>> or *after* acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set (at insertion of a module that
>>>>>> registers a console),
>>>>>> We just can not tell if the received table pointer should or sould not be freed
>>>>>> with early_memunmap()
>>>>>> (actually __acpi_unmap_table() or whatever) without checking
>>>>>> acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap,
>>>>>> but that's all too low level.
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> The driver should make sure that:
>>>>> Map/unmap is paired during early stage.
>>>>> For late stage, it should be another pair of map/unmap.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another option, as you describe, is to get this pointer early, don't free it
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> I mean you should free it early.
>>>>>
>>>>>> untill acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set, then free it (with
>>>>>> early_acpi_os_unmap_memory(), that's
>>>>>> ok because acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set in an init code), then get the
>>>>>> persistent
>>>>>> pointer to the table.  The problem with it is that we can not just watch
>>>>>> acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap
>>>>>> to catch this exact moment.  And also accessing acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is
>>>>>> not good as it probably is
>>>>>> an implementation detail (i. e. too lowlevel) of the ACPI code.
>>>>>> Or I probably miss what you are suggesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> I mean, you should:
>>>>> During early stage:
>>>>> acpi_os_map_memory()
>>>>> Parse the table.
>>>>> acpi_os_unmap_memory().
>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is because, during early bootup stage, there are only limited slots
>>>>>> available for drivers to map memory.
>>>>>>> So by changing __init to __ref here, you probably will hide many such defects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What defects?  This funcions checks acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap.
>>>>>> BTW, exactly the same thing is done in the beginning of
>>>>>> acpi_os_unmap_memory() and than's ok,
>>>>>> that function is __ref.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And solving issues in this way doesn't seem to be an improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please tell me where I am wrong?  I still don't understand your point.
>>>>> [Lv Zheng] 
>>>>> But anyway, the defect should be in ACPI subsystem core.
>>>>> The cause should be the API itself - acpi_get_table().
>>>>>
>>>>> So I agree you can use early_acpi_os_unmap_memory() during the period the root causes are not cleaned up.
>>>>> But the bottom line is: the driver need to ensure that early_acpi_os_unmap_memory() is always invoked.
>>>>> As long as you can ensure this, I don't have objections for deploying early_acpi_os_unmap_memory()  for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>> -Lv
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Aleksey Makarov
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>>>> -Lv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>>>>> -Lv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Aleksey Makarov <aleksey.makarov@...aro.org>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>  drivers/acpi/osl.c | 6 +++++-
>>>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/osl.c b/drivers/acpi/osl.c
>>>>>>>>> index 67da6fb..8a552cd 100644
>>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/osl.c
>>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/osl.c
>>>>>>>>> @@ -497,7 +497,11 @@ void __ref acpi_os_unmap_memory(void *virt,
>>>>>>>>> acpi_size size)
>>>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>>>>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(acpi_os_unmap_memory);
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -void __init early_acpi_os_unmap_memory(void __iomem *virt, acpi_size
>>>>>>>> size)
>>>>>>>>> +/*
>>>>>>>>> + * acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap is set in __init acpi_early_init()
>>>>>>>>> + * so it is safe to call early_acpi_os_unmap_memory() from anywhere
>>>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>>>> +void __ref early_acpi_os_unmap_memory(void __iomem *virt, acpi_size
>>>>>>>> size)
>>>>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>>>>  	if (!acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap)
>>>>>>>>>  		__acpi_unmap_table(virt, size);
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 2.7.1
>>
>>

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