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Date:	Tue, 1 Mar 2016 10:56:19 -0600
From:	Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
To:	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
Cc:	David Daney <ddaney@...iumnetworks.com>,
	David Daney <ddaney.cavm@...il.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...aro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@...eblueprint.co.uk>,
	"linux-efi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-efi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gkulkarni@...iumnetworks.com>,
	Robert Richter <rrichter@...ium.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Daney <david.daney@...ium.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 08/10] dt, numa: Add NUMA dt binding implementation.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 05:26:34PM -0800, David Daney wrote:
>> On 02/23/2016 11:36 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
>> >On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 05:13:17PM -0800, David Daney wrote:
>> >>From: Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gkulkarni@...iumnetworks.com>
>> >>
>> >>ADD device tree node parsing for NUMA topology using device
>> >>"numa-node-id" property distance-map.
>> >
>> >I still want an adequate explanation why NUMA setup cannot be done with
>> >an unflattened tree. PowerPC manages to do that and should have a
>> >similar init flow being memblock based, so I would expect arm64 can too.
>>
>> Many things could be done.  Really, we want to know what *should* be done.
>>
>> In the context of the current arm64 memory initialization we (more or less)
>> do:
>>
>>  1) early_init_fdt_scan_reserved_mem();
>>  2) memory_present()
>>  3) sparse_init()
>>  4) other things
>>  5) unflatten_device_tree()
>>
>> We are already reading information out of the FDT at #1.
>>
>> This patch set adds a step between 1 and 2 where we read NUMA information
>> out of the FDT.
>>
>> Hypothetically, it might be possible to rewrite the arm64 setup code so that
>> the ordering was different, and the NUMA setup was done on the unflattened
>> tree, but that would certainly be a much more invasive patch.
>
> I just looked at what PPC get up to, and there's really not an obvious
> way we could do that on arm64. They run whole swathes of the kernel
> with the MMU off directly from head.S to parse the flattened tree and
> get memblock up really early. On arm64, the head.S environment is
> considerably more hostile, and I don't think we'd want to do that (not
> to mention the interaction with EFI stub).
>
> So I'm perfectly happy for this to operate on the flattened tree.

Of course you are. The code is not in your tree. I'm all for keeping
things out of /arch, but just want to understand what are the
dependencies which aren't clearly spelled out here.

Rob

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