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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:10:58 -0700
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>,
Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] x86: Enumerate kernel FSGS capability in AT_HWCAP2
On Mar 21, 2016 12:43 PM, "Andi Kleen" <andi@...stfloor.org> wrote:
>
> > It would be less complicated actually, as normal userspace would just
> > continue to call arch_prctl() as it does today. Glibc would implement
>
> We already have that through the system call, no advantage of
> putting it into a vsyscall.
>
> Also the experience with getcpu and similar so far is that
> vsyscalls are too slow for the users who want really fast paths.
> So they're prefer to use the direct instructions anyways.
Getcpu is mainly slow because the overcomplicated API requires
branches. I've been tempted to add __vdso_get_cpu as an alternative
that simply returns the CPU number.
>
> > arch_prctl() just like it does with gettimeofday() -- with an ifunc
> > selector [1] that calls the VDSO function if it is available, or the
> > syscall if not. No custom assembly needed.
>
> vdso always needs custom assembler, please see how glibc implements it.
This is simply not true.
I haven't checked the glibc implementation, and I wouldn't be remotely
surprised if it is maliciously incomprehensible, but there is no
reason whatsoever that using any vdso mechanism other than AT_SYSINFO
itself requires assembler. AT_SYSINFO, of course, requires assembler
because the calling convention is weird.
--Andy
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