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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1603221111040.1793-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Date:	Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:13:10 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To:	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.com>
cc:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
	Microchip Linux Driver Support <UNGLinuxDriver@...rochip.com>,
	Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@...rochip.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>, <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lan78xx: Protect runtime_auto check by #ifdef CONFIG_PM

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, Oliver Neukum wrote:

> On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 10:21 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > I don't see any point in resuming the device just in order to collect 
> > operating statistics.  If it was already suspended then it wasn't 
> > operating, so there will be no statistics to collect.
> 
> Indeed. In that case the point is moot. But it is correct to ask
> the core whether the device is autosuspended at that point rather
> than keep a private flag if you can.

That's why we have pm_runtime_status_suspended().

> All that is relevant only if the upper layers ask for information
> that the driver cannot provide without resuming the device.
> Those are fundamentally different issues.

Of course.

Alan Stern

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