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Message-ID: <147496989.L43SVC7xRY@wuerfel>
Date:	Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:25:42 +0200
From:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
To:	okaya@...eaurora.org
Cc:	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	timur@...eaurora.org, cov@...eaurora.org, jcm@...hat.com,
	eric.auger@...aro.org, mark.rutland@....com,
	devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
	Baptiste Reynal <b.reynal@...tualopensystems.com>,
	vikrams@...eaurora.org, marc.zyngier@....com,
	linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	vinod.koul@...el.com, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
	agross@...eaurora.org, Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>,
	shankerd@...eaurora.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/3] vfio, platform: add support for ACPI while detecting the reset driver

On Tuesday 29 March 2016 06:59:15 okaya@...eaurora.org wrote:
> On 2016-03-29 05:25, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 28 March 2016 09:35:22 Sinan Kaya wrote:
> >> The code is using the compatible DT string to associate a reset driver 
> >> with
> >> the actual device itself. The compatible string does not exist on ACPI
> >> based systems. HID is the unique identifier for a device driver 
> >> instead.
> >> The change allows a driver to register with DT compatible string or 
> >> ACPI
> >> HID and then match the object with one of these conditions.
> >> 
> >> Rules for loading the reset driver are as follow:
> >> - ACPI HID needs match for ACPI systems
> >> - DT compat needs to match for OF systems
> >> 
> >> Tested-by: Eric Auger <eric.auger@...aro.org> (device tree only)
> >> Tested-by: Shanker Donthineni <shankerd@...eaurora.org> (ACPI only)
> >> Signed-off-by: Sinan Kaya <okaya@...eaurora.org>
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > This really feels wrong for two reasons:
> > 
> > * device assignment of non-PCI devices is really special and doesn't
> >   seem to make sense on general purpose servers that would be the 
> > target
> >   for ACPI normally
> 
> 
> Why is it special? Acpi is not equal to pci. Platform devices are first 
> class devices too. Especially, _cls was introduced for this reason.

It still feels like a hack. The normal design for a server is to have
all internal devices show up on the PCI host bridge, next to the PCIe
ports, to have a simple way to manage any device, both internal and
off-chip. Putting a device on random MMIO registers outside of the
discoverable buses and have the firmware work around the lack of
discoverability will always be inferior.

> > 
> > * If there is indeed a requirement for ACPI to handle something like 
> > this,
> >   it should be part of the ACPI spec, with a well-defined method of 
> > handling
> >   reset, rather than having to add a device specific hack for each
> >   device separately.
> > 
> 
> I see. Normally, this is done by calling _rst method. AFAIK, Linux 
> doesn’t support _rst. I can check its presence and call it if it is 
> there.

Yes, that sounds reasonable: In patch 2 where you check for the
presence of the reset method, just keep the existing logic for
DT based systems, and use _rst on ACPI based systems instead,
then you can drop both patches 1 and 3.

	Arnd

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