Message-ID: <9142448.GZtlcyxafd@diego>
Date:	Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:47:38 +0200
From:	Heiko Stübner <heiko@...ech.de>
To:	Yakir Yang <ykk@...k-chips.com>
Cc:	Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@...il.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
	Mark Yao <mark.yao@...k-chips.com>,
	Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@...sung.com>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	devicetree <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	ML dri-devel <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-rockchip <linux-rockchip@...ts.infradead.org>,
	LAKML <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Add Rockchip RGA support

Am Dienstag, 29. März 2016, 19:17:12 schrieb Yakir Yang:
> Hi Emil & Heiko,
> 
> On 03/29/2016 05:35 AM, Emil Velikov wrote:
> > On 28 March 2016 at 19:44, Heiko Stübner <heiko@...ech.de> wrote:
> >> Am Montag, 28. März 2016, 13:21:02 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 22 March 2016 at 00:42, Heiko Stuebner <heiko@...ech.de> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Yakir,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Am Montag, 21. März 2016, 20:17:46 schrieb Yakir Yang:
> >>>>> On 03/21/2016 07:29 PM, Heiko Stübner wrote:
> >>>>>> Am Montag, 21. März 2016, 17:28:38 schrieb Yakir Yang:
> >>>>>>> This patch set would add the RGA direct rendering based 2d graphics
> >>>>>>> acceleration module.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> very cool to see that.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ;)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> This patch set is based on git repository below:
> >>>>>>> git://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/linux drm-next
> >>>>>>> commit id: 568d7c764ae01f3706085ac8f0d8a8ac7e826bd7
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> And the RGA driver is based on Exynos G2D driver, it only manages
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> command lists received from user, so user should make the command
> >>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>> to data and registers needed by operation to use.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I have prepared an userspace demo application for testing:
> >>>>>>>     https://github.com/yakir-Yang/libdrm-rockchip
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> That is a rockchip libdrm library, and I have write a simple test
> >>>>>>> case
> >>>>>>> "rockchip_rga_test" that would test the below RGA features:
> >>>>>>> - solid
> >>>>>>> - copy
> >>>>>>> - rotation
> >>>>>>> - flip
> >>>>>>> - window clip
> >>>>>>> - dithering
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Did you submit your libdrm changes as well?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Userspace-interfaces need to be stable so the other side must also
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> accepted - even before the kernel change if I remember correctly.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Got it, and I just saw exynos_fimg2d already landed at mainline
> >>>>> libdrm.
> >>>>> But I don't find the way to submit patches to libdrm, would you like
> >>>>> share some helps here ;)
> >>>> 
> >>>> Looking at the libdrm sources on cgit.freedesktop.org, I did not find
> >>>> any
> >>>> specific manual on submitting patches.
> >>>> 
> >>>> But looking at the dri-list archive, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org is
> >>>> the
> >>>> right list and looking at the libdrm history it looks like Emil Velikov
> >>>> <emil.l.velikov@...il.com> seems to be doing maintenance-stuff in
> >>>> libdrm.
> >>>> And as a 3rd recipient, please also include the linux-rockchip list.
> >>>> 
> >>>> @Emil, please shout if I read that wrong :-)
> >>> 
> >>> You got it spot on Heiko. There are a few notes though...
> >>> 
> >>> As one reuses the existing hardware/IP block, it would be better to
> >>> avoid copy/pasting code around.
> >>> 
> >>> Namely:
> >>>   - (if possible) factor out the exynos g2d kernel functionality to a
> >>> 
> >>> separate kernel module and wire up the rockhip (via dt ?) to use it
> >>> 
> >>>   - factor out the g2d specifics out of exynos_drm.h (into
> >>> 
> >>> exynos_g2d_drm.h perhaps ?) and make sure exynos_drm.h includes the
> >>> new header
> >> 
> >> I think the IP blocks themself are quite different between Rockchip's RGA
> >> and Samsung's g2d and I guess the similarities are more along the lines
> >> on how that gets integrated into the respective drm driver and
> >> userspace.
> Yes, the hardware IP blocks is quite different. I just reference two things
> from Exynos g2d code:
> 1. UAPI side: let userspace pass the detail mode tranform register setting
>      to kernel directly, so we don't need to pass the rendering
> parameters to
>      kernel, just simplify the ioctl parameters.
> 
> 2. Kernel side: reference the cmdlist manager method. Two simply task: one
>      for collecting the userspace register setting, another start
> rendering process.
> 
> > In this case, the exynos_g2d_drm.h seems like a good idea. As I'm
> > obviously biased, it's better to check how others feel on the topic.
> 
> Do you mean that just create an exynos_g2d_drm.h, so both exynos_drm.h
> and rockchip_drm.h could include them ? It's good to reuse code, but in this
> case I thought it's better to keep both exist.
> 
> I have try to do that, split the common 'exynos_g2d_drm.h'. But I
> thought it may
> caused some name confusion. For example, the drm rockchip code need call the
> EXYNOS_G2D_SET_CMDLIST ioctl to send command list. This may like drm
> rockchip
> is calling the Exynos G2D hardware, but actually it just the name conflict.
> 
> Actually the head file is much simple, just contained 60 lines.
> 
> So, is it okay not to split the head file, just keep the data structure
> define both
> rockchip_drm.h and exynos_drm.h
> 
> >>>   - if neither of these are possible, then please ensure that the new
> >>> 
> >>> header uses correct types (see the docs [1]), use MIT/X11 license (if
> >>> possible) and link where upstream userspace is happy with the
> >>> interface (ideally more than a simple test app like libdrm)
> >>> These might sound like an overkill, although getting UAPI right and
> >>> maintaining it forever forces us to do so.
> >> 
> >> As for a real-world usecase, maybe the armsoc xserver might be somewhat
> >> easy to use. While the core changes I did are in the core project
> >> already, I'm still keeping the actual Rockchip support separate [0] due
> >> to the not-yet- resolved create_gem ioctl.
> >> 
> >> Anyway, the armsoc xserver has some exa implementation hooks were I guess
> >> it might be relatively easy to hook up soc-specific things.
> > 
> > Ouch the armsoc ddx... Last time I've checked it felt like a place
> > where everyone is doing his own thing, with no actual reviews and/or
> > maintainer. Iirc most/all of it's functionality was achievable with
> > modesetting ddx (with or without glamor) ? I take it that things have
> > changed and/or I misunderstood something ?
> 
> Yeah, previously I plan to add RGA support to Rockchip armsoc DDX, but
> seems Mark start to work on modetestting, so I may need to switch to
> follow him.

It is great to hear that people who actually know what they're doing in 
graphics-land are working on x11 support :-D .


Heiko

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