linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] leds: core: add generic support for RGB Color LED's

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Message-ID: <20160401135748.GD11860@amd>
Date:	Fri, 1 Apr 2016 15:57:48 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@...sung.com>
Cc:	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	linux-leds@...r.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	pali.rohar@...il.com, sre@...nel.org, khilman@...nel.org,
	aaro.koskinen@....fi, ivo.g.dimitrov.75@...il.com,
	Patrik Bachan <patrikbachan@...il.com>, serge@...lyn.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] leds: core: add generic support for RGB Color
 LED's

Hi!
On Wed 2016-03-30 09:57:38, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> Hi Heiner and Pavel,
> 
> On 03/29/2016 10:38 PM, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> >Am 29.03.2016 um 12:02 schrieb Pavel Machek:
> >>Hi!
> >>
> >>First, please Cc me on RGB color support.
> >>
> >>>Add generic support for RGB Color LED's.
> >>>
> >>>Basic idea is to use enum led_brightness also for the hue and saturation
> >>>color components.This allows to implement the color extension w/o
> >>>changes to struct led_classdev.
> >>>
> >>>Select LEDS_RGB to enable building drivers using the RGB extension.
> >>>
> >>>Flag LED_SET_HUE_SAT allows to specify that hue / saturation
> >>>should be overridden even if the provided values are zero.
> >>>
> >>>Some examples for writing values to /sys/class/leds/<xx>/brightness:
> >>>(now also hex notation can be used)
> >>>
> >>>255 -> set full brightness and keep existing color if set
> >>>0 -> switch LED off but keep existing color so that it can be restored
> >>>      if the LED is switched on again later
> >>>0x1000000 -> switch LED off and set also hue and saturation to 0
> >>>0x00ffff -> set full brightness, full saturation and set hue to 0
> >>>(red)
> >>
> >>Umm, that's rather strange interface -- and three values in single sysfs
> >>file is actually forbidden.
> >>
> >>Plus, it is very much unlike existing interfaces for RGB LEDs, which
> >>we already have supported in the tree. (At least nokia N900 and Sony
> >>motion controller already contain supported three-color LEDs).
> >>
> >>Now... yes, there's work to be done for the 3-color LEDs. Currently,
> >>they are treated as three different LEDs. (Which makes some sense, you
> >>can use "battery charging" trigger for LED, and CPU activity trigger
> >>for green, for example). It would be good to have some kind of
> >>grouping, so that userspace can tell "these 3 leds are actually
> >>combined into one light".
Hi!

> >At first thanks for the review comments.
> >Treating the three physical LEDs of a RGB LED as separate LED devices
> >might have been implemented due to the lack of alternatives.
> >With one trigger controlling the red LED and another controlling the green
> >LED we may end up with a yellow light. Not sure whether this is what we want.
> >
> >One driver for this extension was the idea of triggers using color
> >to visualize states etc.
> >Therefore it's not only about userspace controlling the color.
> >As a trigger is bound to a led_classdev we need a led_classdev
> >representing a RGB LED device.
> >
> >And ok: If required the sysfs interface can be splitted into separate
> >attributes for hue, saturation, and (existing) brightness.
> 
> It would have the same downsides as in case of having r, g and b in
> separate attributes, i.e. - problems with setting LED colour in
> a consistent way. This way LED blinking in whatever colour couldn't
> be supported reliably. It was one of your primary rationale standing
> behind this design, if I remember correctly. Second - what about
> triggers? We've had a long discussion about it and this design turned
> out to be most fitting.

Are on/off triggers really that useful for a LED that can produce 16
million colors?

I believe we should support patterns for RGB LEDs. Something like
[ (time, r, g, b), ... ] . Ok, what about this one?

Lets say we have

/sys/class/pattern/lp5533::0
/sys/class/pattern/software::0

/sys/class/led/n900::red ; default trigger "lp5533::0:0"
/sys/class/led/n900::green ; default trigger "lp5533::0:1"
/sys/class/led/n900::blue ; default trigger "lp5533::0:2"

Normally, pattern would correspond to one RGB LED. We could have
attribute "/sys/class/pattern/lp5533::0/color" containing R,G,B for
this pattern. Then we could have normal "trigger" mechanism, working
with the color used. Probably recognizing "none" for manual control,
and "pattern" for pattern control. (Pattern would be controlled as
described above).

> It's hard to address these requirements by having the settings in
> separate attributes, due to synchronization issues, and LED trigger
> mechanism specificity.
> 
> There is a question whether we can bend the sysfs "one value per sysfs
> file" rule down to RGB LEDs needs.
> 
> Of course other brilliant ideas on how to approach the problem are
> more than expected.

linux-api sounds like interesting idea, please cc me if you do that.

Best regards,
									Pavel
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