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Message-ID: <1460302797.4383.44.camel@gmail.com>
Date:	Sun, 10 Apr 2016 17:39:57 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Doug Smythies <dsmythies@...us.net>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [regression] cross core scheduling frequency drop bisected to
 0c313cb20732

On Sat, 2016-04-09 at 14:31 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:59:59PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 08, 2016 08:50:54 AM Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2016-04-08 at 08:45 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Cute, I thought you used governor=performance for your runs?
> > > > 
> > > > I do, and those numbers are with it thus set.
> > > 
> > > Well, this is a trade-off.
> > > 
> > > 4.5 introduced a power regression here so this one goes back to
> > > the previous
> > > state of things.
> > 
> > Just for my elucidation; how can gov=performance have a 'power'
> > regression?
> 
> Because of what is used as the "default" idle state most of the time.
> 
> C1 was used before 4.5 and that changed to polling in 4.5.

Should the default idle state not then be governor dependent?  When I
set gov=performance, I'm expecting box to go just as fast as it can go
without melting.  Does polling risk CPU -> lava conversion?

	-Mike

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