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Date:	Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:47:14 -0700
From:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
Cc:	James Morse <james.morse@....com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>,
	Matt Redfearn <matt.redfearn@...tec.com>,
	Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@...ian.org>,
	Emrah Demir <ed@...sec.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
	"linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
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	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prefer kASLR over Hibernation

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven
<geert@...ux-m68k.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:00 AM, James Morse <james.morse@....com> wrote:
>>> On 06/04/16 20:44, Kees Cook wrote:
>>>> When building with both CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE,
>>>> one or the other must be chosen at boot-time. Until now, hibernation
>>>> was selected when no choice was made on the command line.
>>>>
>>>> To make the security benefits of kASLR more widely available to end
>>>> users (since the use of hibernation is becoming more rare and kASLR,
>>>> already available on x86, will be available on arm64 and MIPS soon),
>>>> this changes the default to preferring kASLR over hibernation. Users
>>>> wanting hibernation can turn off kASLR by adding "nokaslr" to the kernel
>>>> command line.
>>>
>>> While hibernate isn't yet merged for arm64, it does work with kASLR in v4.6-rc*,
>>> it would be a shame to have to choose at boot time, (but that's my problem to
>>> fix if/when its merged).
>>
>> Ah, interesting, so they work together on arm64? (i.e. you've actually
>> tested a boot loader that provides the seed for kASLR to operate?)
>
> Probably the PS3 people can provide us with a good tool to generate a
> seed that makes hibernation work all the time ;-)
>
> https://xkcd.com/221/

:)

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-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security

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