Date:	Tue, 12 Apr 2016 15:26:44 +0200
From:	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
To:	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/46] pwm: introduce the pwm_state concept

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 15:11:18 +0200
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 02:45:08PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:21:41 +0200
> > Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 02:17:18PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:49:04 +0200
> > > > Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:03:38PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > > > The PWM state, represented by its period, duty_cycle and polarity,
> > > > > > is currently directly stored in the PWM device.
> > > > > > Declare a pwm_state structure embedding those field so that we can later
> > > > > > use this struct to atomically update all the PWM parameters at once.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All pwm_get_xxx() helpers are now implemented as wrappers around
> > > > > > pwm_get_state().
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  drivers/pwm/core.c  |  8 ++++----
> > > > > >  include/linux/pwm.h | 54 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
> > > > > >  2 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/pwm/core.c b/drivers/pwm/core.c
> > > > > > index 6433059..f3f91e7 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/pwm/core.c
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/pwm/core.c
> > > > > > @@ -268,7 +268,7 @@ int pwmchip_add_with_polarity(struct pwm_chip *chip,
> > > > > >  		pwm->chip = chip;
> > > > > >  		pwm->pwm = chip->base + i;
> > > > > >  		pwm->hwpwm = i;
> > > > > > -		pwm->polarity = polarity;
> > > > > > +		pwm->state.polarity = polarity;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would this not more correctly be assigned to pwm->args.polarity? After
> > > > > all this is setting up the "initial" state, much like DT or the lookup
> > > > > tables would for duty cycle and period.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I wasn't sure about the pwm_add_with_polarity() meaning. To me,
> > > > all the reference info should be extracted from DT, PWM lookup table or
> > > > driver specific ->request() implementation, but I can definitely
> > > > initialize the args.polarity here too.
> > > > 
> > > > Should I keep the pwm->state.polarity assignment (to set the initial
> > > > polarity when the driver does not support hardware readout)?
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't this work automatically as part of the pwm_apply_args() helper
> > > if we extended it with this setting?
> > 
> > Well, as you explained in you answer to patch 5, pwm_apply_args()
> > should be called on a per-request basis (each time a PWM device is
> > requested), while the initial polarity setting should only be applied
> > when registering the PWM chip (and its devices). After that, the
> > framework takes care of keeping the PWM state in sync with the hardware
> > state.
> > 
> > Let's take a real (though a bit unusual) example. Say you have a single
> > PWM device referenced by two different users. Only one user can be
> > enabled at a time, but each of them has its own reference config
> > (different polarity, different period).
> > 
> > User1 calls pwm_get() and applies its own polarity and period. Then
> > user1 is unregistered and release the PWM device, leaving the polarity
> > and period untouched.
> > 
> > User2 is registered and request the same PWM device, but user2 is
> > smarter and tries to extract the current PWM state before adapting the
> > config according to pwm_args. If you just reset pwm->state.polarity
> > each time pwm_apply_args() is called (and you suggested to call it as
> > part of the request procedure), then this means the PWM state is no
> > longer in sync with the hardware state.
> 
> In that case neither will be the period or duty cycle. Essentially this
> gets us back to square one where we need to decide how to handle current
> state vs. initial arguments.

That's not true. Now we clearly differentiate the reference config
(content of pwm_args which is only a subset of what you'll find in
pwm_state) and the PWM state (represented by pwm_state).

We should be safe as long as we keep those 2 elements as 2 orthogonal
concepts:
- pwm_args is supposed to give some hint to the PWM user to help him
  configure it's PWM appropriately
- pwm_state is here to reflect the real PWM state, and apply new
  configs

> 
> But I don't think this is really going to be an issue because this is
> all moot until we've moved over to the atomic API, at which point this
> is all going to go away anyway.

As stated in my answer to patch 5, I think I misunderstood your
suggestion. pwm_apply_args() is supposed to adjust the PWM config to
match the period and polarity specified in pwm_args, right?

If that's the case, my question is, should we really call this function
each time a new user requests a PWM instead of letting those users call
the function on-demand (not all users want to adapt the current PWM
config to the pwm_args, some may just want to apply a completely new
config).

-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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