linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: mem-model: add flatmem model for arm64

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Date:	Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:18:54 +0800
From:	Chen Feng <puck.chen@...ilicon.com>
To:	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>
CC:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Dan Zhao <dan.zhao@...ilicon.com>, <mhocko@...e.com>,
	Yiping Xu <xuyiping@...ilicon.com>, <puck.chen@...mail.com>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	<suzhuangluan@...ilicon.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linuxarm@...wei.com>, <albert.lubing@...ilicon.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	<oliver.fu@...ilicon.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Laura Abbott" <labbott@...hat.com>, <robin.murphy@....com>,
	<kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>, <saberlily.xia@...ilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: mem-model: add flatmem model for arm64

Hi Catalin,

Thanks for your reply.
On 2016/4/12 22:59, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:31:53PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On 11 April 2016 at 11:59, Chen Feng <puck.chen@...ilicon.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016/4/11 16:00, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>> On 11 April 2016 at 09:55, Chen Feng <puck.chen@...ilicon.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016/4/11 15:35, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>>> On 11 April 2016 at 04:49, Chen Feng <puck.chen@...ilicon.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>  0             1.5G    2G             3.5G            4G
>>>>>>>  |              |      |               |              |
>>>>>>>  +--------------+------+---------------+--------------+
>>>>>>>  |    MEM       | hole |     MEM       |   IO (regs)  |
>>>>>>>  +--------------+------+---------------+--------------+
>>>>> The hole in 1.5G ~ 2G is also allocated mem-map array. And also with the 3.5G ~ 4G.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, it is not. It may be covered by a section, but that does not mean
>>>> sparsemem vmemmap will actually allocate backing for it. The
>>>> granularity used by sparsemem vmemmap on a 4k pages kernel is 128 MB,
>>>> due to the fact that the backing is performed at PMD granularity.
>>>>
>>>> Please, could you share the contents of the vmemmap section in
>>>> /sys/kernel/debug/kernel_page_tables of your system running with
>>>> sparsemem vmemmap enabled? You will need to set CONFIG_ARM64_PTDUMP=y
>>>
>>> Please see the pg-tables below.
>>>
>>> With sparse and vmemmap enable.
>>>
>>> ---[ vmemmap start ]---
>>> 0xffffffbdc0200000-0xffffffbdc4800000          70M     RW NX SHD AF    UXN MEM/NORMAL
>>> ---[ vmemmap end ]---
> [...]
>>> The board is 4GB, and the memap is 70MB
>>> 1G memory --- 14MB mem_map array.
>>
>> No, this is incorrect. 1 GB corresponds with 16 MB worth of struct
>> pages assuming sizeof(struct page) == 64
>>
>> So you are losing 6 MB to rounding here, which I agree is significant.
>> I wonder if it makes sense to use a lower value for SECTION_SIZE_BITS
>> on 4k pages kernels, but perhaps we're better off asking the opinion
>> of the other cc'ees.
> 
> IIRC, SECTION_SIZE_BITS was chosen to be the maximum sane value we were
> thinking of at the time, assuming that 1GB RAM alignment to be fairly
> normal. For the !SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP case, we should probably be fine with
> 29 but, as Will said, we need to be careful with the page flags. At a
> quick look, we have 25 page flags, 2 bits per zone, NUMA nodes and (48 -
> section_size_bits) for the section width. We also need to take into
> account 4 more bits for 52-bit PA support (ARMv8.2). So, without NUMA
> nodes, we are currently at 49 bits used in page->flags.
> 
> For the SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP case, we can decrease the SECTION_SIZE_BITS in
> the MAX_ORDER limit.
> 
> An alternative would be to free the vmemmap holes later (but still keep
> the vmemmap mapping alias). Yet another option would be to change the
> sparse_mem_map_populate() logic get the actual section end rather than
> always assuming PAGES_PER_SECTION. But I don't think any of these are
> worth if we can safely reduce SECTION_SIZE_BITS.
> 
Yes,
currently,it's safely to reduce the SECTION_SIZE_BITS to match this issue
very well.

As I mentioned before, if the memory layout is not like this scene. There
will be not suitable to reduce the SECTION_SIZE_BITS.

We have 4G memory, and 64GB phys address.

There will be a lot of holes in the memory layout.
And the *holes size are not always the same*.

So,it's the reason I want to enable flat-mem in ARM64-ARCH. Why not makes
the flat-mem an optional setting for arm64？