linux-kernel - Re: Nokia N900 retention mode in v4.6, camera buttons fun

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Message-ID: <20160421130450.GQ29406@pali>
Date:	Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:04:50 +0200
From:	Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>
To:	sre@...nel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Tony Lindgren <tony@...mide.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	linux-omap@...r.kernel.org, khilman@...nel.org,
	aaro.koskinen@....fi, ivo.g.dimitrov.75@...il.com,
	patrikbachan@...il.com, serge@...lyn.com,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@...com>
Subject: Re: Nokia N900 retention mode in v4.6, camera buttons fun

On Sunday 17 April 2016 19:55:40 Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > > > Ok, it works now. I was doing tests in daylight so it was poorly
> > > > > > visible. The right part of keyboard stays lit (but that's expected
> > > > > > AFAICT), but the left part blinks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > During idle, both should go off and are doing so for me. Both LEDs off
> > > > > indicates off mode, left LED off is for retention mode. So you still
> > > > > have something blocking off mode, maybe check:
> > > > > 
> > > > > echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/pm_debug/enable_off_mode
> > > > 
> > > > What is the power difference between retention and off? I'm now down
> > > > to cca 25mA, which should be around 50 hours standby time. Not ideal,
> > > > but should be usable.
> > 
> > The 25mA sounds way too big to me even for retention mode, some
> > devices must be still on.
> 
> Yes, cca 60mW. 
> 
> > The off mode makes a huge difference for standby time, it should cut
> > down the total power consumption to something like 10+ mW with modem
> > enabled. Aproximately the breakdown is roughly: 900 uW for omap, 5 mW
> > for memory and 5 or more for the modem. Sorry I don't know the exact
> > numbers for the modem. But with 37xx torpedo, mainline kernel is
> > already getting very close to the 900 uW + 5 mW numbers for the CPU
> > module during idle measured from the ina219 shunt on the torpedo
> > devkit.
> 
> CONFIG_HSI breaks power management completely, so power management
> with modem will be another topic.  

Sebastian, any idea why power management does not work for HSI?

> > > > In the meantime, I found what is causing the rention mode to break for
> > > > me: CONFIG_HSI (aka wireless modem support). With HSI off, it seems to work.
> > > > 
> > > > I still get problems with the camera button, in config similar to
> > > > defconfig.  For some reason, I'm even getting (autorepeating) ^@ on
> > > > console. As long as I hold camera button down, I even get it into off
> > > > mode for brief period.
> > > 
> > > Ok, if I turn off CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO, I get it into off
> > > mode... once per screen blank, for about a second. (Does CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO also cause
> > > problems for you?)
> > > 
> > > Any idea why it enters off mode only once after each screenblank?
> > 
> > After disabling CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING, loading the LCD modules, and
> > blanking the screen, my n900 hits off mode just fine about once
> > a second. Sounds like you still have some extra devices enabled
> > causing it.
> 
> I checked again... also with vanilla 4.6-rc2 to double check... same effect.
> 
> Aha, got it... cat-ing /sys/kernel/debug/pm_debug/count breaks the
> off mode. If I don't do that (tm), it seems to work way better.

So what is result? Is power management working for CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO?
Or problem is somewhere in CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING?

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@...il.com