linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH V2 RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api

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Message-ID: <1461770135.118304.152.camel@infradead.org>
Date:	Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:15:35 +0100
From:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
To:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>
Cc:	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@...hat.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@...rix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, qemu-block@...gnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@...citrix.com>,
	qemu-devel@...gnu.org, peterx@...hat.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Amit Shah <amit.shah@...hat.com>,
	iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	cornelia.huck@...ibm.com, pbonzini@...hat.com,
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@...rix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api

On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 18:05 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
> I really don't get it.
> 
> There's exactly one device that works now and needs the work-around and
> so that we need to support, and that is virtio. It happens to have
> exactly the same issue on all platforms.

False. We have other devices which are currently *not* translated by
the emulated IOMMU and which aren't going to be in the short term
either.

We also have other devices (emulated hardware NICs) to which precisely
the same "we don't need protection" arguments apply, and which we
*could* expose to the guest without an IOMMU translation if we really
wanted to. It makes as much sense as exposing virtio without an IOMMU,
going forward.

> Why would we want to work hard to build platform-specific
> solutions to a problem that can be solved in 5 lines of
> generic code?

Because it's a dirty hack in the *wrong* place.

-- 
dwmw2

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