linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering w/ device tree

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Message-ID: <5723F514.4@hurleysoftware.com>
Date:	Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:58:12 -0700
From:	Peter Hurley <peter@...leysoftware.com>
To:	Doug Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@...sung.com>,
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	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
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	"linux-mmc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@...r.kernel.org>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@...il.com>,
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	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@...ech.de>,
	Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@...vell.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering
 w/ device tree

On 04/29/2016 04:01 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> * serial allows numbering devices by alias.

Which is in fact a total nightmare.

While stable device order is mandatory in serial because of
console command line parameters and existing userspace expectations,
it is the number one barrier to providing a shared ttyS namespace
for mixed uart platforms.

Stable device order has a very real (and often unforeseen) maintenance
burden.

For example, I noticed these patches are strictly for DT.
I'm assuming that's because guaranteeing stable device order for
mmc in general is more difficult; eg., by performing minimal scan
serially and more expensive portion of the probe async.

Regards,
Peter Hurley