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Message-ID: <AM4PR04MB2130076A1E77301D143C9CAE897B0@AM4PR04MB2130.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Date:	Wed, 4 May 2016 08:03:35 +0000
From:	Jun Li <jun.li@....com>
To:	Roger Quadros <rogerq@...com>, Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@...il.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 09/12] usb: gadget: udc: adapt to OTG core

Hi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Quadros [mailto:rogerq@...com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 2:37 PM
> To: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@...il.com>
> Cc: Jun Li <jun.li@....com>; stern@...land.harvard.edu; balbi@...nel.org;
> gregkh@...uxfoundation.org; peter.chen@...escale.com;
> dan.j.williams@...el.com; jun.li@...escale.com;
> mathias.nyman@...ux.intel.com; tony@...mide.com; Joao.Pinto@...opsys.com;
> abrestic@...omium.org; r.baldyga@...sung.com; linux-usb@...r.kernel.org;
> linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; linux-omap@...r.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] usb: gadget: udc: adapt to OTG core
> 
> Peter,
> 
> On 04/05/16 06:35, Peter Chen wrote:
> > On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 06:44:46PM +0300, Roger Quadros wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 03/05/16 10:06, Jun Li wrote:
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  /**
> >>>>>>>>>>> + * usb_gadget_start - start the usb gadget controller and
> >>>>>>>>>>> +connect to bus
> >>>>>>>>>>> + * @gadget: the gadget device to start
> >>>>>>>>>>> + *
> >>>>>>>>>>> + * This is external API for use by OTG core.
> >>>>>>>>>>> + *
> >>>>>>>>>>> + * Start the usb device controller and connect to bus
> >>>>>>>>>>> +(enable
> >>>> pull).
> >>>>>>>>>>> + */
> >>>>>>>>>>> +static int usb_gadget_start(struct usb_gadget *gadget) {
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	int ret;
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	struct usb_udc *udc = NULL;
> >>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	dev_dbg(&gadget->dev, "%s\n", __func__);
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	mutex_lock(&udc_lock);
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	list_for_each_entry(udc, &udc_list, list)
> >>>>>>>>>>> +		if (udc->gadget == gadget)
> >>>>>>>>>>> +			goto found;
> >>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	dev_err(gadget->dev.parent, "%s: gadget not
> registered.\n",
> >>>>>>>>>>> +		__func__);
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	mutex_unlock(&udc_lock);
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	return -EINVAL;
> >>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>> +found:
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	ret = usb_gadget_udc_start(udc);
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	if (ret)
> >>>>>>>>>>> +		dev_err(&udc->dev, "USB Device Controller didn't
> >>>>>> start: %d\n",
> >>>>>>>>>>> +			ret);
> >>>>>>>>>>> +	else
> >>>>>>>>>>> +		usb_udc_connect_control(udc);
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For drd, it's fine, but for real otg, gadget connect should
> >>>>>>>>>> be done by
> >>>>>>>>>> loc_conn() instead of gadget start.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It is upto the OTG state machine to call gadget_start() when
> >>>>>>>>> it needs to connect to the bus (i.e. loc_conn()). I see no
> >>>>>>>>> point in calling gadget start before.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Do you see any issue in doing so?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is what OTG state machine does:
> >>>>>>>> case OTG_STATE_B_PERIPHERAL:
> >>>>>>>>      otg_chrg_vbus(otg, 0);
> >>>>>>>>      otg_loc_sof(otg, 0);
> >>>>>>>>      otg_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET);
> >>>>>>>>      otg_loc_conn(otg, 1);
> >>>>>>>>      break;
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On second thoughts, after seen the OTG state machine.
> >>>>>> otg_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET); is always followed by
> >>>>>> otg_loc_conn(otg, 1); And whenever protocol changes to anything
> >>>>>> other the PROTO_GADGET, we use otg_loc_conn(otg, 0);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So otg_loc_conn seems redundant. Can we just get rid of it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> usb_gadget_start() implies that gadget controller starts up and
> >>>>>> enables pull.
> >>>>>> usb_gadget_stop() implies that gadget controller disables pull
> >>>>>> and
> >>>> stops.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can you please explain why just these 2 APIs are not sufficient
> >>>>>> for full OTG?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do we want anything to happen between gadget controller
> >>>>>> start/stop and pull on/off?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "loc_conn" is a standard output parameter in OTG spec, it deserves
> >>>>> a separate api, yes, current implementation of OTG state machine
> >>>>> code seems allow you to combine the 2 things into one, but don't
> >>>>> do that, because they do not always happen together, e.g. for
> >>>>> peripheral only B device (also a part OTG spec: section 7.3), will
> >>>>> be fixed in gadget mode, but it will do gadget connect and
> >>>>> disconnect in its diff states, so, to make the framework common,
> let's keep them separated.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sorry but I didn't understand your comment about "it will do
> >>>> gadget connect and disconnect in its diff states"
> >>>
> >>> Gadget connect means loc_conn(1).
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am reading the OTG v2.0 specification and loc_conn is always true
> >>>> when b_peripheral or a_peripheral is true and false otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> If you only talk about these 2 states, yes, loc_conn is ture.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> loc_conn is just an internal state variable and it corresponds to
> >>>> our
> >>>> gadget_start/stop() state.
> >>>
> >>> It's not an internal variable, there are OTG state machine
> >>> parameters tables(table 7-x) in OTG spec which have clear lists
> >>> which are "internal variable", which are "input", which are "output"...
> >>>
> >>> Those APIs are driven directly from OTG spec, easily understood so
> >>> code reader can know what's those APIs for. For real OTG, I don't
> >>> see the benefit if get rid of it.
> >>
> >> OK, no issues if we don't get rid of it. But I am still in favor of
> >> doing a connect in usb_gadget_start(), because
> >>
> >> 1) If we split connect/disconnect() and usb_gadget_start/stop() then
> >> there is additional overhead of keeping track whether connect was
> >> called or not during usb_gadget_stop(). Plus we need to take care
> >> that users don't call connect/disconnect outside of start/stop. It is
> just complicating things.
> >>
> >> 2) for many controllers there is no difference between run/stop and
> >> connect/disconnect. i.e. a single register bit controls both.
> >>
> >> 3) it fits well with the OTG specification. OTG specification says
> >> that loc_conn *variable* must be true *after* the device has signalled
> a connect.
> >> So OTG state machine can safely set loc_conn variable to true after
> >> doing otg_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET); and set it to false
> otherwise.
> >>
> >> Note, OTG specification does not say to take any action based on
> loc_conn.
> >> It is just a connect indicator variable. So we might have to fix this
> >> in the OTG state machine.
> >>
> >> My suggestion is to keep it simple for now. Try the OTG
> >> implementation, and later if we find issues then extend it as required.
> >>
> >
> > Just talked with Jun, he is worried if loc_conn != pullup_dp at some
> > situations. So, how about only calling start gadget at
> > usb_start_gadget,
> 
> Which situations?

When to pull-up DP is decided by application (while vbus is on),
not only by driver state machine.

> 
> > and pullup_dp at drd_set_state (see below).
> >
> >
> > static void drd_set_state(struct otg_fsm *fsm, enum usb_otg_state
> > new_state) {
> > 	struct usb_otg *otg = container_of(fsm, struct usb_otg, fsm);
> >
> > 	if (otg->state == new_state)
> > 		return;
> >
> > 	fsm->state_changed = 1;
> > 	dev_dbg(otg->dev, "otg: set state: %s\n",
> > 		usb_otg_state_string(new_state));
> > 	switch (new_state) {
> > 	case OTG_STATE_B_IDLE:
> > +		usb_udc_vbus_handler(gadget, false);
> 
> This is redundant, When we switch from PROTO_GADGET to PROTO_UNDEF we do a
> usb_gadget_stop(), and a usb_gadget_disconnect() is done there.
> 
> > 		drd_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_UNDEF);
> > 		otg_drv_vbus(otg, 0);
> > 		break;
> > 	case OTG_STATE_B_PERIPHERAL:
> > 		drd_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET);
> > +		usb_udc_vbus_handler(gadget, true);
> 
> This is redundant as well since usb_gadget_start() is doing a
> usb_gadget_connect().
> 
> > 		otg_drv_vbus(otg, 0);
> > 		break;
> > 	......
> > 	};
> >
> > }
> >
> > When the OTG FSM is added to this framework, it can keep
> > usb_fsm->ops->loc_conn, and using the current FSM.
> >
> 
> I have no strong opinions for or against usb_fsm->ops->loc_conn.
> Although strictly speaking, we shouldn't take any action based on loc_conn.

Strictly speaking(OTG spec), all you does is for loc_conn, but you think
it's start_gadget.

> It is just a state variable indicator.

Nobody check this "indicator".

Of cos, this is not a big deal, you can define the new API as is,
do udc_start() + gadget_connect() in one shot, it's up to user to
decide if use your usb_otg_start_gadget(), in case of udc_start()
followed by gadget_connect() is not wanted, user can/need do udc_start()
and something else before do gadget_connect.

> 
> cheers,
> -roger

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