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Message-ID: <1462833472.20290.129.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
Date:	Tue, 10 May 2016 08:37:52 +1000
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	linux-mips@...ux-mips.org, johnyoun@...opsys.com,
	gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@...glemail.com>,
	a.seppala@...il.com, linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: usb: dwc2: regression on MyBook Live Duo / Canyonlands since
 4.3.0-rc4

On Mon, 2016-05-09 at 17:08 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't see any way this could be done in MIPS specific
> code: There is typically a byteswap between the internal bus and the PCI
> bus on big-endian MIPS systems, so the PCI MMIO ends up being little-endian,

Ugh ... not exactly, re-watch my talk on the matter :-) While there is
a specific lane wiring to preserve byte addresss, in the end it's the
end device itself that is either BE or LE. Regardless of any "bus
endianness".
 
> which matches the expected behavior of readl/writel. However, drivers
> for non-PCI devices often use the same readl/writel accessors because
> that is how it's done on ARMv6/ARMv7.

Even then, you can have on-SoC (non-PCI) devices that also have a
different endianness from the main CPU. How does it work on ARM for
example ? The device endianness should be fixed, regardless of the
endianness of the core, no ?

> Doing it hardcoded by architecture is just the simplest way to deal
> with it, working on the assumption that nothing actually needs the
> runtime detection that Ben suggested. 

No, it's not an archicture problem. It's a problem specific to that one
SoC that the device was synthetized to be a certain endian while it was
synthetized differently on another SoC... that also happens to be a
different architecture. But doesn't have to.

For example, we had in the past cases of both LE and BE EHCI
implementations on the same architecture (PowerPC).

> Detecting the endianess of the
> device is probably the best future-proof solution, but it's also
> considerably more work to do in the driver, and comes with a
> tiny runtime overhead.

The runtime overhead is probably non-measurable compared with the cost
of the actual MMIOs.

Cheers,
Ben.

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