linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/3] perf/x86/mbm: Fix mbm counting for RMID reuse

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Message-ID: <20160511072347.GF3193@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Wed, 11 May 2016 09:23:47 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>
Cc:	Vikas Shivappa <vikas.shivappa@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Shivappa, Vikas" <vikas.shivappa@...el.com>,
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"hpa@...or.com" <hpa@...or.com>,
	"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"mingo@...nel.org" <mingo@...nel.org>,
	"Shankar, Ravi V" <ravi.v.shankar@...el.com>,
	"Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@...el.com>,
	"davidcc@...gle.com" <davidcc@...gle.com>,
	"Stephane Eranian (eranian@...gle.com)" <eranian@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] perf/x86/mbm: Fix mbm counting for RMID reuse

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 04:39:39PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> >>  (3) Also we may not want to count at every sched_in and sched_out
> >>      because the MSR reads involve quite a bit of overhead.
> >
> > Every single other PMU driver just does this; why are you special?
> 
> They just have to read a register.  We have to write the IA32_EM_EVT_SEL MSR
> and then read from the IA32_QM_CTR MSR ... if we are tracking both local
> and total bandwidth, we have to do repeat and wrmr/rdmsr again to get the
> other counter.  That seems like it will noticeably affect the system if we do it
> on every sched_in and sched_out.

Right; but Vikas didn't say that did he ;-), he just mentioned msr-read.

Also; I don't think you actually have to do it on every sched event,
only when the event<->rmid association changes. As long as the
event<->rmid association doesn't change, you can forgo updates.

> But the more we make this complicated, the more I think that we should not
> go through the pain of stealing/recycling RMIDs and just limit the number of
> things that can be simultaneously monitored.  If someone tries to monitor one
> more thing when all the RMIDs are in use, we should just error out with
> -ERUNOUTOFRMIDSTRYAGAINLATER (maybe -EAGAIN???)

Possibly; but I would like to minimize churn at this point to let the
Google guys get their patches in shape. They seem to have definite ideas
about that as well :-)