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Message-ID: <d4f9b224-2ce2-8e45-516c-5dddcfd95724@gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:27:01 -0500
From:	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>
To:	Dave Hansen <dave@...1.net>
Cc:	mtk.manpages@...il.com, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] x86, pkeys: allocation/free syscalls

On 06/03/2016 12:28 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 06/02/2016 05:26 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> On 06/01/2016 07:17 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 06/01/2016 05:11 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I read this right, it doesn't actually remove any pkey restrictions
>>>>>>>> that may have been applied while the key was allocated.  So there could be
>>>>>>>> pages with that key assigned that might do surprising things if the key is
>>>>>>>> reallocated for another use later, right?  Is that how the API is intended
>>>>>>>> to work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that's how it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not ideal.  It would be _best_ if we during mm_pkey_free(), we
>>>>>> ensured that no VMAs under that mm have that vma_pkey() set.  But, that
>>>>>> search would be potentially expensive (a walk over all VMAs), or would
>>>>>> force us to keep a data structure with a count of all the VMAs with a
>>>>>> given key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should probably discuss this behavior in the manpages and address it
>>>> s/probably//
>>>>
>>>> And, did I miss it. Was there an updated man-pages patch in the latest
>>>> series? I did not notice it.
>>>
>>> There have been to changes to the patches that warranted updating the
>>> manpages until now.  I'll send the update immediately.
>>
>> Do those updated pages include discussion of the point noted above?
>> I could not see it mentioned there.
> 
> I added the following text to pkey_alloc.2.  I somehow neglected to send
> it out in the v3 update of the manpages RFC:
> 
> An application should not call
> .BR pkey_free ()
> on any protection key which has been assigned to an address
> range by
> .BR pkey_mprotect ()
> and which is still in use.  The behavior in this case is
> undefined and may result in an error.
> 
> I'll add that in the version (v4) I send out shortly.
> 
>> Just by the way, the above behavior seems to offer possibilities
>> for users to shoot themselves in the foot, in a way that has security
>> implications. (Or do I misunderstand?)
> 
> Protection keys has the potential to add a layer of security and
> reliability to applications.  But, it has not been primarily designed as
> a security feature.  For instance, WRPKRU is a completely unprivileged
> instruction, so pkeys are useless in any case that an attacker controls
> the PKRU register or can execute arbitrary instructions.
> 
> That said, this mechanism does, indeed, allow a user to shoot themselves
> in the foot and in a way that could have security implications.
> 
> For instance, say the following happened:
> 1. A sensitive bit of data in memory was marked with a pkey
> 2. That pkey was set as PKEY_DISABLE_ACCESS
> 3. The application called pkey_free() on the pkey, without freeing
>    the sensitive data
> 4. Application calls pkey_alloc() and then clears PKEY_DISABLE_ACCESS
> 5. Applocation can now read the sensitive data
> 
> The application has to have basically "leaked" a reference to the pkey.
>  It forgot that it had sensitive data marked with that key.
> 
> The kernel _could_ enforce that no in-use pkey may have pkey_free()
> called on it.  But, doing that has tradeoffs which could make
> pkey_free() extremely slow:
> 
>> It's not ideal.  It would be _best_ if we during mm_pkey_free(), we
>> ensured that no VMAs under that mm have that vma_pkey() set.  But, that
>> search would be potentially expensive (a walk over all VMAs), or would
>> force us to keep a data structure with a count of all the VMAs with a
>> given key.
> 
> In addition, that checking _could_ be implemented in an application by
> inspecting /proc/$pid/smaps for "ProtectionKey: $foo" before calling
> pkey_free($foo).

So, I think all of the above needs to be made abundantly clear in 
pkeys(7).

Thanks,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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