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Message-ID: <20160607130628.GN5506@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 7 Jun 2016 06:06:28 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@...opsys.com>,
	Waiman Long <waiman.long@....com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	manfred@...orfullife.com, dave@...olabs.net, boqun.feng@...il.com,
	tj@...nel.org, pablo@...filter.org, kaber@...sh.net,
	davem@...emloft.net, oleg@...hat.com,
	netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org, sasha.levin@...cle.com,
	hofrat@...dl.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/3] locking: Introduce smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep

On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 02:41:44PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> On 07.06.2016 09:15, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> >> index 147ae8ec836f..a4d0a99de04d 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> >> +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> >> @@ -806,6 +806,41 @@ out-guess your code.  More generally, although READ_ONCE() does force
> >>  the compiler to actually emit code for a given load, it does not force
> >>  the compiler to use the results.
> >>  
> >> +In addition, control dependencies apply only to the then-clause and
> >> +else-clause of the if-statement in question.  In particular, it does
> >> +not necessarily apply to code following the if-statement:
> >> +
> >> +	q = READ_ONCE(a);
> >> +	if (q) {
> >> +		WRITE_ONCE(b, p);
> >> +	} else {
> >> +		WRITE_ONCE(b, r);
> >> +	}
> >> +	WRITE_ONCE(c, 1);  /* BUG: No ordering against the read from "a". */
> >> +
> >> +It is tempting to argue that there in fact is ordering because the
> >> +compiler cannot reorder volatile accesses and also cannot reorder
> >> +the writes to "b" with the condition.  Unfortunately for this line
> >> +of reasoning, the compiler might compile the two writes to "b" as
> >> +conditional-move instructions, as in this fanciful pseudo-assembly
> >> +language:
> 
> I wonder if we already guarantee by kernel compiler settings that this
> behavior is not allowed by at least gcc.
> 
> We unconditionally set --param allow-store-data-races=0 which should
> actually prevent gcc from generating such conditional stores.
> 
> Am I seeing this correct here?

In this case, the store to "c" is unconditional, so pulling it forward
would not generate a data race.  However, the compiler is still prohibited
from pulling it forward because it is not allowed to reorder volatile
references.  So, yes, the compiler cannot reorder, but for a different
reason.

Some CPUs, on the other hand, can do this reordering, as Will Deacon
pointed out earlier in this thread.

							Thanx, Paul

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