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Date:	Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:03:17 +0800
From:	Zhou Jie <zhoujie2011@...fujitsu.com>
To:	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>
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	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] x86: Add support for guest DMA dirty
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Hi, Alex

On 2016/6/9 23:39, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Zhou Jie <zhoujie2011@...fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> TO Alex
>> TO Michael
>>
>>    In your solution you add a emulate PCI bridge to act as
>>    a bridge between direct assigned devices and the host bridge.
>>    Do you mean put all direct assigned devices to
>>    one emulate PCI bridge?
>>    If yes, this maybe bring some problems.
>>
>>    We are writing a patchset to support aer feature in qemu.
>>    When assigning a vfio device with AER enabled, we must check whether
>>    the device supports a host bus reset (ie. hot reset) as this may be
>>    used by the guest OS in order to recover the device from an AER
>>    error.
>>    QEMU must therefore have the ability to perform a physical
>>    host bus reset using the existing vfio APIs in response to a virtual
>>    bus reset in the VM.
>>    A physical bus reset affects all of the devices on the host bus.
>>    Therefore all physical devices affected by a bus reset must be
>>    configured on the same virtual bus in the VM.
>>    And no devices unaffected by the bus reset,
>>    be configured on the same virtual bus.
>>
>>    http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-05/msg02989.html
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Zhou Jie
>
> That makes sense, but I don't think you have to worry much about this
> at this point at least on my side as this was mostly just theory and I
> haven't had a chance to put any of it into practice as of yet.
>
> My idea has been evolving on this for a while.  One thought I had is
> that we may want to have something like an emulated IOMMU and if
> possible we would want to split it up over multiple domains just so we
> can be certain that the virtual interfaces and the physical ones
> existed in separate domains.  In regards to your concerns perhaps what
> we could do is put each assigned device into its own domain to prevent
> them from affecting each other.  To that end we could probably break
> things up so that each device effectively lives in its own PCIe slot
> in the emulated system.  Then when we start a migration of the guest
> the assigned device domains would then have to be tracked for unmap
> and sync calls when the direction is from the device.
>
> I will keep your concerns in mind in the future when I get some time
> to look at exploring this solution further.
>
> - Alex

I am thinking about the practice of migration of passthrough device.

In your solution, you use a vendor specific configuration space to
negotiate with guest.
If you put each assigned device into its own domain,
how can qemu negotiate with guest?
Add the vendor specific configuration space to every pci bus which
is assigned a passthrough device?

Sincerely
Zhou Jie

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