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Date:	Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:28:06 +0200
From:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>
Cc:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	kexec@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mm: rename _count, field of the struct page, to
 _refcount"

On Thu 16-06-16 13:22:27, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> writes:
> 
> > On Thu 16-06-16 12:30:16, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> >> Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:22:46AM +0200, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> >> >> _count -> _refcount rename in commit 0139aa7b7fa12 ("mm: rename _count,
> >> >> field of the struct page, to _refcount") broke kdump. makedumpfile(8) does
> >> >> stuff like READ_MEMBER_OFFSET("page._count", page._count) and fails. While
> >> >> it is definitely possible to fix this particular tool I'm not sure about
> >> >> other tools which might be doing the same.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I suggest we remember the "we don't break userspace" rule and revert for
> >> >> 4.7 while it's not too late.
> >> >
> >> > Err, sorry - this is not "userspace".  It's crazy crap digging into
> >> > kernel internal structure.
> >> >
> >> > The rename was absolutely useful, so fix up your stinking pike in kdump.
> >> 
> >> Ok, sure, I'll send a patch to it. I was worried about other tools out
> >> there which e.g. inspect /proc/vmcore. As it is something we support
> >> some conservatism around it is justified.
> >
> > struct page layout as some others that such a tool might depend on has
> > changes several times in the past so I fail to see how is it any
> > different this time.
> 
> IMO this time the change doesn't give us any advantage, it was just a
> rename.

Which would catch all the pending users who are not using the
appropriate API. This is IMHO very useful as the sole purpose of the
change is to catch _all_ users. So the reason is pretty much technicall.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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