lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:13:28 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
cc:	Torsten Duwe <duwe@....de>, matz@...e.de,
	live-patching@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Disable non-ABI-compliant optimisations for live
 patching

On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Pavel Machek wrote:

> > Live patching, as we use it, deliberately disrupts the fabric of
> > compile units; thus all assumptions a compiler can make about the
> > control flow may be invalid. As an example, it could analyse that a
> > callee does not touch a caller-saved register at all, so why waste
> > memory bandwidth saving it? The register allocations for the live
> > patch replacement function may however be quite different.
> > 
> > Starting with this example, disable all compiler optimisations that
> > do not strictly comply with the established calling conventions.
> 
> I thought that in such case, person creating the live patch should
> notice and adjust patch appropriately, at assembly level if
> neccessary..?

Yes, that still holds; a lot of things could be automated though, and 
creating the automation tools is one of the big TODO items.

> If this is not true, and we want gcc to help us, what other 
> optimalizations do we need to disable? Even changes inside one compiler 
> unit can be "interesting"...

What would actually be helpful is gcc providing us with a list of 
functions where it performed this ABI-violating optimization (similarly, 
we're already obtaining list of "what got inlined where"). Unfortunately, 
-fdump-ipa-ra is currently missing; I'm talking to gcc guys now to have it 
implemented.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ