linux-kernel - Re: devicetree random-seed properties, was: "Re: [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR"

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Message-ID: <20160630214856.GI9922@io.lakedaemon.net>
Date:	Thu, 30 Jun 2016 21:48:56 +0000
From:	Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>,
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Subject: Re: devicetree random-seed properties, was: "Re: [PATCH v7 0/9]
 x86/mm: memory area address KASLR"

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:40:41PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net> wrote:
> >> Thomas,
> >>
> >> Sorry for wandering off the topic of your series.  The big take away for
> >> me is that you and Kees are concerned about x86 systems pre-RDRAND.
> >> Just as I'm concerned about deployed embedded systems without bootloader
> >> support for hw-rngs and so forth.
> >>
> >> Whatever final form the approach takes for ARM/dt, I'll make sure we can
> >> extend it to legacy x86 systems.
> >
> > Yeah, this seems like a productive conversation to me. :)
> 
> I have an old patch and spec I need to dust off that does this during
> *very* early boot on x86 using MSRs so that kASLR can use it.

I'd love to see that. ;-)

thx,

Jason.