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Message-ID: <CA+GA0_vGaHfpjYLq-NO4MMzRbgv0_YFnniaYXYQTvSNUUkSxKg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 2 Aug 2016 19:20:17 +0200
From:	Marcin Ślusarz <marcin.slusarz@...il.com>
To:	Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@...hat.com>
Cc:	linux-mm@...ck.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Is reading from /proc/self/smaps thread-safe?

2016-07-31 8:22 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@...hat.com>:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 02:44:48PM +0200, Marcin Ślusarz wrote:
>> Hey
>>
>> I have a simple program that mmaps 8MB of anonymous memory, spawns 16
>> threads, reads /proc/self/smaps in each thread and looks up whether
>> mapped address can be found in smaps. From time to time it's not there.
>>
>> Is this supposed to work reliably?
>>
>> My guess is that libc functions allocate memory internally using mmap
>> and modify process' address space while other thread is iterating over
>> vmas.
>>
>> I see that reading from smaps takes mmap_sem in read mode. I'm guessing
>> vm modifications are done under mmap_sem in write mode.
>>
>> Documentation/filesystem/proc.txt says reading from smaps is "slow but
>> very precise" (although in context of RSS).
>>
>
> Address space modification definitely happens as threads get their
> stacks mmaped and unmapped.
>
> If you run your program under strace you will see all threads perform
> multiple read()s to get the content as the kernel keeps return short
> reads (below 1 page size). In particular, seq_read imposes the limit
> artificially.
>
> Since there are multiple trips to the kernel, locks are dropped and
> special measures are needed to maintain consistency of the result.
>
> In m_start you can see there is a best-effort attempt: it is remembered
> what vma was accessed by the previous run. But the vma can be unmapped
> before we get here next time.

I added printks to m_start and I see that when last_addr is non-zero, find_vma
succeeds, even in cases when my test can't find its mapping.
So it seems the problem is not that simple.

Just for testing I commented out m_next_vma call from m_start and now my
test always succeeds (of course at the expense of duplicated entries).
Maybe it's just because of changed timing or maybe the problem is deeper...

>
> So no, reading the file when the content is bigger than 4k is not
> guaranteed to give consistent results across reads.
>
> I don't have a good idea how to fix it, and it is likely not worth
> working on. This is not the only place which is unable to return
> reliable information for sufficiently large dataset.
>
> The obvious thing to try out is just storing all the necessary
> information and generating the text form on read. Unfortunately even
> that data is quite big -- over 100 bytes per vma. This can be shrinked
> down significantly with encoding what information is present as opposed
> to keeping all records). But with thousands of entries per application
> this translates into kilobytes of memory which would have to allocated
> just to hold it, sounds like a non-starter to me.

Another idea is to change seq_read to flush data to user buffer every
time it's full, without "stopping/starting" the seq_file. The logic of seq_read
is quite hairy, so I didn't try this. And I'm not sure if page fault in
copy_to_user could retake mmap_sem in write mode.

Another (crazy) idea is to implement write operation for smaps where
buffer contents would pick the right VMA for the next read.
Too crazy? :)

Marcin

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