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Message-ID: <CAKgT0Uds1oTZv1rcHQceB9rVomM09XL+dUr9LYNv0+Fe1O3+Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:04:01 -0700
From:	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>
To:	Daniel Drake <drake@...lessm.com>
Cc:	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	"linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Carlo Caione <carlo@...lessm.com>,
	Linux Upstreaming Team <linux@...lessm.com>,
	Chris Chiu <chiu@...lessm.com>
Subject: Re: pcieport AER error spam on Intel Skylake

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Daniel Drake <drake@...lessm.com> wrote:
> Hi Alexander,
>
> Reviving an old topic here...
>
> We are seeing this "problem" on an increasing number of units from the
> vendor, and searching around it can also be seen on Dell and HP
> products. Always with the same Realtek b723 wifi device. e.g.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173
>
> The amount of error spam is problematic in that it slows down boot
> really significantly, while printing lots of scary messages for the
> user.
> We tried doing a PCI MSI blacklist for affected laptops but we are
> struggling to keep that blacklist updated with the increasing number
> of affected models.
>
> Enough hacks, I am wondering what we can do to solve this problem in
> the mainline kernel...
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Alexander Duyck
> <alexander.duyck@...il.com> wrote:
>> On 09/03/2015 06:32 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Alexander Duyck
>>> <alexander.duyck@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since it is correctable errors it is likely some sort of signalling
>>>> issue.
>>>> Could we get the output of something like an lspci -vt? Then you would be
>>>> able to tell what the device is on the other side of the link from
>>>> 00:1c.5
>>>> and then we could probably check to see if there has been any changes for
>>>> the device driver on the other end of the link.
>>>
>>> "lspci -vt" reliably causes one occurance of the message, which is
>>> logged by the kernel before lspci has written anything to stdout.
>>>   pcieport 0000:00:1c.5: AER: Corrected error received: id=00e5
>>>   pcieport 0000:00:1c.5: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected,
>>> type=Physical Layer, id=00e5(Receiver ID)
>>>   pcieport 0000:00:1c.5:   device [8086:9d15] error
>>> status/mask=00000001/00002000
>>>   pcieport 0000:00:1c.5:    [ 0] Receiver Error
>>>
>>> -[0000:00]-+-00.0  Intel Corporation Device 1904
>>>             +-02.0  Intel Corporation Device 1916
>>>             +-04.0  Intel Corporation Device 1903
>>>             +-08.0  Intel Corporation Device 1911
>>>             +-14.0  Intel Corporation Device 9d2f
>>>             +-14.2  Intel Corporation Device 9d31
>>>             +-15.0  Intel Corporation Device 9d60
>>>             +-15.1  Intel Corporation Device 9d61
>>>             +-16.0  Intel Corporation Device 9d3a
>>>             +-17.0  Intel Corporation Device 9d03
>>>             +-1c.0-[01]--
>>>             +-1c.4-[02]----00.0  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>>> RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
>>>             +-1c.5-[03]----00.0  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device
>>> b723
>>>             +-1f.0  Intel Corporation Device 9d48
>>>             +-1f.2  Intel Corporation Device 9d21
>>>             +-1f.3  Intel Corporation Device 9d70
>>>             \-1f.4  Intel Corporation Device 9d23
>>>
>>> Does this mean these messages are somehow related to the Realtek b723
>>> device? That is the wifi card.
>>> Using x86_64_defconfig there is not even any driver loaded for this
>>> device, yet the messages appear quite a bit.
>>> If I use a full config with all the relevant drivers including
>>> rtlwifi, the frequency of these messages goes up a lot though.
>>
>>
>> The correctable errors are likely a result of some sort of link error
>> between the root port 00:1c.5 and the wireless adapter at 3:00.0.  What is
>> likely happening is that when the device is unused it transitions down to a
>> lower power link state like L0s or L1, and when it comes out of that state
>> it is likely triggering the PCIe error most likely as a result of something
>> during the PCIe link training sequence.
>>
>> You might want to notify the manufacturer of the laptop as they may need to
>> address an issue in their hardware, firmware, or possibly add  a workaround
>> to mask off Receiver Error reporting for their part via either a PCIe quirk
>> or driver fix.
>>
>>>> My suspicion since this is a laptop is that something like a power
>>>> management change might be responsible if this is a regression as I have
>>>> seen messages like this pop up as a result of ASPM being enabled before.
>>>
>>> It's likely not a regression, this is brand new hardware and this
>>> message is seen on all kernels that we have tried (4.1, 4.2, master).
>>> pcie_aspm=off also makes these messages go away.
>>
>>
>> Correctable errors are considered a sign of the PCIe link health. In theory
>> they can be ignored since by definition they can be corrected by the
>> hardware.  One thing you could do if you aren't using the wireless card
>> would be to simply switch off the correctable error reporting by setting the
>> mask bit for it in configuration space using setpci.
>>
>> To do that what you could do is find the offset for the PCIe AER
>> configuration register for your port by doing a "lspci -vvv -s 0:1c.5" and
>> what you should get will be a dump listing the capabilities and their
>> current settings.  In there you should find a line like:
>>     Capabilities: [148 v1] Advanced Error Reporting
>>
>> The 148 is the hex offset of the configuration space.  The Correctable Error
>> mask is located at a hex offset of 0x14 from there.  So adding the hex
>> values 0x148 and 0x14 gives us 0x15C.  To disable reporting correctable
>> receiver errors you would just want to add a 1 to whatever value you get
>> from "setpci -s 0:1c.5 0x15C.l" and then write that value back.  So for
>> example on my system I ended up with something like "setpci -s 0:1c.5
>> 0x15C.l=2001" where the output from the first command was 2000.
>
> I guess this is the most concrete suggestion for how to avoid the
> issue - perhaps we can do that in rtl8723be driver probe. However, you
> mentioned above that we should only do it if we aren't using the
> wireless card. In this case we are using it... should we look for
> another approach instead?

I honestly don't recall the reason why I used the wording about "using
the wireless card".  The only reason why I can think of is that
correctable errors are supposed to be used to determine link health,
but in this case you know there are issues since you are being spammed
about them constantly.

So if you are wanting to do this in code am I correct in assuming that
this worked to actually solve the problem for you?

The flood of correctable errors is probably a link training problem
that is being triggered by the fact that the device is running with
ASPM enabled.  The best way to describe ASPM is that it is meant to
save power on the system by essentially turning off the link between
the CPU and/or chipset and the device.  What can happen is that if the
wiring isn't the best quality it can sometimes fail and cause some
noise on the wire resulting in a correctable error.

What you should probably look at doing is seeing if you could add
something to drivers/pci/quirks.c for this specific device in this
specific platform with ASPM and AER enabled.  Then you wouldn't see
the errors even if the driver for the device isn't loaded.  If we
could get someone from RealTek involved in this it would be preferred
as they might have a better idea of what might exactly be going on so
that we could fix the root cause instead of just having to squelch the
symptom of the problem.

- Alex

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