linux-kernel - Re: [Linux-ima-devel] [PATCH 1/7] ima: on soft reboot, restore the measurement list

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Message-ID: <20160810143230.GD4087@localhost>
Date:	Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:32:30 +0300
From:	Petko Manolov <petkan@...-labs.com>
To:	Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>, kexec@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-ima-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ima-devel] [PATCH 1/7] ima: on soft reboot, restore the
 measurement list

On 16-08-10 08:54:36, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-08-10 at 19:52 +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> > 
> > > Am Mittwoch, 10 August 2016, 13:41:08 schrieb Michael Ellerman:
> > >> Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> > >> > Am Dienstag, 09 August 2016, 09:01:13 schrieb Mimi Zohar:
> > >> >> On Tue, 2016-08-09 at 20:59 +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > >> >> > Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> writes: 
> > >> >> > > +/* Some details preceding the binary serialized measurement list
> > >> >> > > */
> > >> >> > > +struct ima_kexec_hdr {
> > >> >> > > +	unsigned short version;
> > >> >> > > +	unsigned long buffer_size;
> > >> >> > > +	unsigned long count;
> > >> >> > > +} __packed;
> > >> >> > > +
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > Am I understanding it correctly that this structure is passed between
> > >> >> > kernels?
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Yes, the header prefixes the measurement list, which is being passed on
> > >> >> the same computer to the next kernel.  Could the architecture (eg.
> > >> >> LE/BE) change between soft re-boots?
> > >> > 
> > >> > Yes. I am able to boot a BE kernel from an LE kernel with my patches.
> > >> > Whether we want to support that or not is another question...
> > >> 
> > >> Yes you must support that. BE -> LE and vice versa.
> > >
> > > I didn't test BE - LE yet, but will do.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> Ok. There have been requests for making the binary_runtime_measurements
> architecture independent.  As this was not a network facing interface,
> we left it in native format.  With the kernel now consuming this data,
> it makes sense for the binary_runtime_measurements to be in an
> architecture independent format.
> 
> Unfortunately, as the <securityfs>/ima/binary_runtime_measurements is
> not prefixed with any metadata, this change would need to be Kconfig
> based, but kexec would always use the architecture independent format.
> 
> > >> You should also consider the possibility that the next kernel is not
> > >> Linux.
> 
> Oh!
> 
> > > If the next kernel is an ELF binary and it supports the kexec "calling 
> > > convention", it should work too. What could possibly go wrong? I can try 
> > > FreeBSD (I suppose it's an ELF kernel) and see what happens.
> > 
> > At least for old style kexec (not sys_kexec_load()) I don't think it
> > even needs to be an ELF binary.
> > 
> > I think there are folks working on FreeBSD (or $?BSD), so I think the
> > basic kexec part works.
> > 
> > There's nothing (yet) that wants to use this measurement list obviously,
> > but it should be designed such that it could be used by an unknown
> > future kernel that knows the ABI.
> > 
> > So given what you have above, you'd use something like:
> > 
> > struct ima_kexec_hdr {
> > 	u16 version;
> > 	u16 _reserved0;
> > 	u32 _reserved1;
> > 	u64 buffer_size;
> > 	u64 count;
> > };
> > 
> > cheers
> 
> Thanks, I'll make this change.

I would suggest:

struct ima_kexec_hdr {
	u64 buffer_size;
	u64 count;
	u16 version;
};

and let the compiler add the proper padding, depending on the architecture.  On 
32bit machine we'll have 4 bytes smaller allocations (compared to 64bit) while 
retaining the same functionality.


cheers,
Petko