lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:08:54 +0200
From:	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@...e.de>
To:	James Bottomley <jejb@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@...e.de>,
	Linux SCSI Mailinglist <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailinglist <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	stable@...r.kernel.org, #@...e.de, v4.5+@...e.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SAS: use sas_rphy instead of sas_end_device to obtain
 address.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 11:00:07AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-08-11 at 18:43 +0200, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 08:09:35AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2016-08-11 at 09:59 +0200, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
> > > > Since commit 3f8d6f2a0 ('ses: fix discovery of SATA devices in
> > > > SAS
> > > > enclosures') ses_match_to_enclosure() is calling
> > > > sas_get_address(),
> > > > which is coming from commit bcf508c13385 ('scsi_transport_sas:
> > > > add
> > > > function to get SAS endpoint address'). sas_get_address() itself 
> > > > calls sas_sdev_to_rdev() which BUG_ON()s if a given scsi_device's
> > > > rphy is not a SAS_END_DEVICE.
> > > 
> > > Is the BUG_ON the problem?  you're supposed to gate this call with
> > > is_sas_attached().
> > > 
> > > > As SAS Enclosure is a SAS expander device,
> > > 
> > > This isn't necessarily true.  There are several separated enclosure
> > > chips even in the SAS world (although most of the new ones are
> > > integrated).
> > 
> > Maybe change it to "As a SAS enclosure can be a SAS expander device,
> > [..]"
> > 
> > > 
> > > >  we really shouldn't tie the lookup of a SAS address to the SAS
> > > > End
> > > > Device but the sas_rphy, which holds the address information.
> > > 
> > > This is conceptually wrong.  A wide end device may have many rphys
> > > forming a port.  In that case the end device address is likely to
> > > be
> > > only one of the rphy addresses ... how do you know this code picks
> > > the
> > > right one?
> > > 
> > > > Fixes: 3f8d6f2a0 ('ses: fix discovery of SATA devices in SAS
> > > > enclosures')
> > > > Cc: stable@...r.kernel.org # v4.5+
> > > 
> > > What's the actual bug being fixed here?
> > 
> > This is the callchain I have:
> > 
> > ses_init()
> > `-> scsi_register_interface()
> >     `-> class_interface_register()
> >         `-> ses_intf_add()
> > 	    `-> ses_match_to_enclosure()
> > 	        `-> sas_get_address()
> > 		    `-> sas_sdev_to_rdev()
> >                         `-> BUG_ON(rphy->identify.device_type !=
> > SAS_END_DEVICE);
> > 		  	    `-> KABOOM, Bug report, yelling release
> > manager, etc..
> 
> So what is at the end?  is_sas_attached() indicates the transport class
> attached to something and that something generated an sdev ... that can
> only happen I think if that something is an end device.

sas_get_address() in ses_match_to_enclosure() _is_ guarded by
is_sas_attached(), so it probably can not only happen if that
something is an end device or the BUG_ON() wouldn't fire.

> 
> > Unfortunately I do not have a SAS enclosure here so all I could do 
> > was read the spec and code and have the customer test the patch.
> > 
> > But from my git archeology:
> > Since 3f8d6f2a0 sas_match_to_enclosure() is calling
> > sas_get_address(). Which in turn is calling sas_sdev_to_rdev() and so
> > on...
> > 	
> > The thing is, in sas_get_address() we want to get the address of a 
> > sas device, don't we? And looking at the UML diagram in the SAS spec, 
> > we see an enclosure as well as an end device do have a rphy attached 
> > to it, which in turn has a SAS address.
> 
> Because, as I said in the previous reply, the rphy is only the sas
> address for non-wide ports.  They phy layer is just above the physical
> layer.  The end device sits at the application layer, which is four
> layers above that. Whatever diagram you're looking at is probably
> showing port layer connections.  The way the transport class works is
> that each rphy, even when part of a formed wide port, is individually
> addressable, so we can send SMP phy controls to it, but the device is
> separately addressable by its own SAS address.

Ok, we can't use the rphy because of wide-ports. We can't fix it to an
end device either, as this makes some peoples systems unbootable. Now
let's find a third option satisfying the needs of SAS wide-ports and
my customers (and others running 4.5+ with a SAS enclosure).

I'm digging...

-- 
Johannes Thumshirn                                          Storage
jthumshirn@...e.de                                +49 911 74053 689
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
Key fingerprint = EC38 9CAB C2C4 F25D 8600 D0D0 0393 969D 2D76 0850

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ