linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 16/51] x86/32: put real return address on stack in entry code

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Date:	Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:22:33 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
Cc:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@....com>,
	Nilay Vaish <nilayvaish@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 16/51] x86/32: put real return address on stack in
 entry code

On 08/15/16 11:25, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:04:42AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 08/15/16 08:09, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 12:31:47AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>>> This standardizes the stacks of idle tasks to be consistent with other
>>>>> tasks on 32-bit.
>>>>
>>>> It might be nice to stick a ud2 or 1: hlt; jmp 1b or similar
>>>> afterwards to make it clear that initial_code can't return.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'll do something like that.
>>>
>>
>> "Standardizing the stack" how?  A zero on the stack terminates the stack
>> trace.
> 
> Instead of zero, user tasks have a real return address at that spot.
> This makes idle tasks consistent with that, so we have a well defined
> "end of stack".  Also it makes the stack trace more useful since it
> shows what entry code was involved in calling into C.
> 

So how is the stack terminated, and does things like kdb and kgdb need
modifications?  Or is there now a stack termination above the struct
pt_regs?

	-hpa