lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFwp-Aeu-6j2MfMgEDoUwq+1vThL4nBdMj-p5TqDMA5RrA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:48:36 -0700
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Bob Peterson <rpeterso@...hat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>, LKP <lkp@...org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LKP] [lkp] [xfs] 68a9f5e700: aim7.jobs-per-min -13.6% regression

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> None of this code is all that new, which is annoying. This must have
> gone on forever,

... ooh.

Wait, I take that back.

We actually have some very recent changes that I didn't even think
about that went into this very merge window.

In particular, I wonder if it's all (or at least partly) due to the
new per-node LRU lists.

So in shrink_page_list(), when kswapd is encountering a page that is
under page writeback due to page reclaim, it does:

                        if (current_is_kswapd() &&
                            PageReclaim(page) &&
                            test_bit(PGDAT_WRITEBACK, &pgdat->flags)) {
                                nr_immediate++;
                                goto keep_locked;

which basically ignores that page and puts it back on the LRU list.

But that "is this node under writeback" is new - it now does that per
node, and it *used* to do it per zone (so it _used_ to test "is this
zone under writeback").

All the mapping pages used to be in the same zone, so I think it
effectively single-threaded the kswapd reclaim for one mapping under
reclaim writeback. But in your cases, you have multiple nodes...

Ok, that's a lot of hand-wavy new-age crystal healing thinking.

Really, I haven't looked at it more than "this is one thing that has
changed recently, I wonder if it changes the patterns and could
explain much higher spin_lock contention on the mapping->tree_lock".

I'm adding Mel Gorman and his band of miscreants to the cc, so that
they can tell me that I'm full of shit, and completely missed on what
that zone->node change actually ends up meaning.

Mel? The issue is that Dave Chinner is seeing some nasty spinlock
contention on "mapping->tree_lock":

>   31.18%  [kernel]  [k] __pv_queued_spin_lock_slowpath

and one of the main paths is this:

>    - 30.29% kswapd
>       - 30.23% shrink_node
>          - 30.07% shrink_node_memcg.isra.75
>             - 30.15% shrink_inactive_list
>                - 29.49% shrink_page_list
>                   - 22.79% __remove_mapping
>                      - 22.27% _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
>                           __pv_queued_spin_lock_slowpath

so there's something ridiculously bad going on with a fairly simple benchmark.

Dave's benchmark is literally just a "write a new 48GB file in
single-page chunks on a 4-node machine". Nothing odd - not rewriting
files, not seeking around, no nothing.

You can probably recreate it with a silly

  dd bs=4096 count=$((12*1024*1024)) if=/dev/zero of=bigfile

although Dave actually had something rather fancier, I think.

             Linus

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ