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Date:	Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:04:30 +0200
From:	Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>
To:	Vladislav Levenetz <vlevenetz@...sol.com>
Cc:	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@...il.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@...e.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@....com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@...il.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async

On Mon 2016-08-15 17:26:50, Vladislav Levenetz wrote:
> On 08/12/2016 12:44 PM, Petr Mladek wrote:
> >But I was curious if we could hit a printk from the wake_up_process().
> >The change above causes using the fair scheduler and there is
> >the following call chain [*]
> >
> >   vprintk_emit()
> >   -> wake_up_process()
> >    -> try_to_wake_up()
> >     -> ttwu_queue()
> >      -> ttwu_do_activate()
> >       -> ttwu_activate()
> >        -> activate_task()
> >	-> enqueue_task()
> >	 -> enqueue_task_fair()	    via p->sched_class->enqueue_task
> >	  -> cfs_rq_of()
> >	   -> task_of()
> >	    -> WARN_ON_ONCE(!entity_is_task(se))
> >
> >We should never trigger this because printk_kthread is a task.
> >But what if the date gets inconsistent?
> >
> >Then there is the following chain:
> >
> >   vprintk_emit()
> >   -> wake_up_process()
> >    -> try_to_wake_up()
> >     -> ttwu_queue()
> >      -> ttwu_do_activate()
> >       -> ttwu_activate()
> >        -> activate_task()
> >	-> enqueue_task()
> >	 -> enqueue_task_fair()	    via p->sched_class->enqueue_task
> >	  ->hrtick_update()
> >	   -> hrtick_start_fair()
> >	    -> WARN_ON(task_rq(p) != rq)
> >
> >This looks like another paranoid consistency check that might be
> >triggered when the scheduler gets messed.
> >
> >I see few possible solutions:
> >
> >1. Replace the WARN_ONs by printk_deferred().
> >
> >    This is the usual solution but it would make debugging less convenient.
> >
> >
> >2. Force synchronous printk inside WARN()/BUG() macros.
> >
> >    This would make sense even from other reasons. These are printed
> >    when the system is in a strange state. There is no guarantee that
> >    the printk_kthread will get scheduled.
> >
> >
> >3. Force printk_deferred() inside WARN()/BUG() macros via the per-CPU
> >    printk_func.
> >
> >    It might be elegant. But we do not want this outside the scheduler
> >    code. Therefore we would need special variants of  WARN_*_SCHED()
> >    BUG_*_SCHED() macros.
> >
> >
> >I personally prefer the 2nd solution. What do you think about it,
> >please?
> >
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >Petr
> 
> Hi Petr,
> 
> Sorry with for the late reply.

No problem.

> Hitting a WARN()/BUG() from wake_up calls will lead to a deadlock if
> only a single CPU is running.

I think that the deadlock might happen also with more CPUs if
the async_printk() is enabled. I mean:

  printk_emit()
    wake_up_process()
      try_to_wake_up()
	raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&p->pi_lock, flags)  !!!!
	ttwu_queue()
	  ttwu_do_activate()
	    ttwu_activate()
	      activate_task()
		enqueue_task()
		  enqueue_task_fair()	    via p->sched_class->enqueue_task
		    hrtick_update()
		      hrtick_start_fair()
			WARN_ON(task_rq(p) != rq)
			  printk()
			    vprintk_emit()
			      wake_up_process()
				try_to_wake_up()
				  raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&p->pi_lock,
					flags)

There is a deadlock because p->pi_lock is already taken by
the first try_to_wake_up().

By other words, I think that the single running CPU was only
a symptom but it was not the root cause of the deadlock.

> We already had such a situation with system suspend. During a
> specific test on our device sometimes we hit a WARN from the time
> keeping core. (Cannot recall which one exactly. Viresh have it) from
> a printk wake_up path during system suspend and with already only
> one CPU running.
> So we were forced to make printing synchronous in the suspend path
> prior disabling all non-boot cpu's.
> 
> Your solution number 2) sounds reasonable to me.

Good.
 
> I'm wondering if we could hit a WARN()/BUG() somewhere from the fair
> scheduler like the example you made for the RT sched?

Unfortunately, it looks like. The example above actually is from
the fair scheduler.

Best Regards,
Petr

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