linux-kernel - Re: [PACTH v9] stacktrace: Eliminate task stack trace duplication

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Date:	Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:41:30 -0400
From:	Robert Foss <robert.foss@...labora.com>
To:	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, tglx@...utronix.de,
	mingo@...hat.com, hpa@...or.com, x86@...nel.org,
	davem@...emloft.net, yinghan@...gle.com, ast@...com,
	linux@...musvillemoes.dk, borntraeger@...ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Bresticker <abrestic@...omium.org>,
	Sameer Nanda <snanda@...omium.org>,
	Filipe Brandenburger <filbranden@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [PACTH v9] stacktrace: Eliminate task stack trace duplication



On 2016-08-17 02:06 PM, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 01:40:33PM -0400, Robert Foss wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2016-08-17 12:58 PM, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:51:45AM -0400, Robert Foss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-08-17 02:50 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 07:12:36PM -0400, robert.foss@...labora.com wrote:
>>>>>> From: Ying Han <yinghan@...gle.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with small dmesg ring buffer like 512k is that only limited number
>>>>>> of task traces will be logged. Sometimes we lose important information only
>>>>>> because of too many duplicated stack traces. This problem occurs when dumping
>>>>>> lots of stacks in a single operation, such as sysrq-T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch tries to reduce the duplication of task stack trace in the dump
>>>>>> message by hashing the task stack. The hashtable is a 32k pre-allocated buffer
>>>>>> during bootup. Each time if we find the identical task trace in the task stack,
>>>>>> we dump only the pid of the task which has the task trace dumped. So it is easy
>>>>>> to back track to the full stack with the pid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we do the hashing, we eliminate garbage entries from stack traces. Those
>>>>>> entries are still being printed in the dump to provide more debugging
>>>>>> informations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [   53.510162] kworker/0:0     S ffffffff8161d820     0     4      2 0x00000000
>>>>>> [   53.517237]  ffff88027547de60 0000000000000046 ffffffff812ab840 0000000000000000
>>>>>> [   53.524663]  ffff880275460080 ffff88027547dfd8 ffff88027547dfd8 ffff88027547dfd8
>>>>>> [   53.532092]  ffffffff81813020 ffff880275460080 0000000000000000 ffff8808758670c0
>>>>>> [   53.539521] Call Trace:
>>>>>> [   53.541974]  [<ffffffff812ab840>] ? cfq_init_queue+0x350/0x350
>>>>>> [   53.547791]  [<ffffffff81524d49>] schedule+0x29/0x70
>>>>>> [   53.552761]  [<ffffffff810945a3>] worker_thread+0x233/0x380
>>>>>> [   53.558318]  [<ffffffff81094370>] ? manage_workers.isra.28+0x230/0x230
>>>>>> [   53.564839]  [<ffffffff81099a73>] kthread+0x93/0xa0
>>>>>> [   53.569714]  [<ffffffff8152e6d4>] kernel_thread_helper+0x4/0x10
>>>>>> [   53.575628]  [<ffffffff810999e0>] ? kthread_worker_fn+0x140/0x140
>>>>>> [   53.581714]  [<ffffffff8152e6d0>] ? gs_change+0xb/0xb
>>>>>> [   53.586762] kworker/u:0     S ffffffff8161d820     0     5      2 0x00000000
>>>>>> [   53.593858]  ffff88027547fe60 0000000000000046 ffffffffa005cc70 0000000000000000
>>>>>> [   53.601307]  ffff8802754627d0 ffff88027547ffd8 ffff88027547ffd8 ffff88027547ffd8
>>>>>> [   53.608788]  ffffffff81813020 ffff8802754627d0 0000000000011fc0 ffff8804758670c0
>>>>>> [   53.616232] Call Trace:
>>>>>> [   53.618676] <Same stack as pid 4>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might want to wait a bit and have a look at this:
>>>>>
>>>>>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/cover.1471011425.git.jpoimboe@redhat.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll have a look through that series!
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Yeah, those patches replace dump_trace() with a new unwinder interface,
>>> so if they get merged, this will need to be rewritten a little bit.
>>>
>>> As for the patch itself, I'm not crazy about how it pushes the decision
>>> of whether to print the stack of a given task down to the stack dump
>>> code in show_trace_log_lvl().
>>>
>>> I think I'd prefer to instead change the implementation of sysrq-T so
>>> that it uses save_stack_trace_tsk(), and then uses
>>> printk_stack_address() to print the stack.  Then the stack dump code in
>>> dumpstack*.c would be completely unaffected.
>>>
>>> Or, even better, instead of sysrq-T, can the user just read
>>> /proc/*/{comm,stack} and /proc/sched_debug?  That gives basically the
>>> same information without flooding printk.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback Josh!
>>
>> I think the save_stack_trace_tsk() changes you are suggesting sound very
>> reasonable. However requiring the user to read /proc/*/{comm,stack} sort of
>> circumnavigates the goal of the patch, which is to reduce clutter in the
>> default stack traces that one encounters.
>
> Yes, but maybe the hashing and deduplication of stacks could also be
> done in user space?
>

What would that look like in practice? A user space daemon running in 
the background?