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Message-ID: <20160818121258.2a62ce66@gandalf.local.home>
Date:   Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:12:58 -0400
From:   Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:     Chunyan Zhang <zhang.chunyan@...aro.org>
Cc:     Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@...aro.org>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        mingo@...hat.com, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Mike Leach <mike.leach@....com>, Tor Jeremiassen <tor@...com>,
        philippe.langlais@...com, Nicolas GUION <nicolas.guion@...com>,
        felipe.balbi@...ux.intel.com, Lyra Zhang <zhang.lyra@...il.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 1/3] tracing: add a possibility of exporting function
 trace to other places instead of ring buffer only

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:22:11 +0800
Chunyan Zhang <zhang.chunyan@...aro.org> wrote:


> > Or is this just trying to hook into the tracing that is happening? That
> > is, this isn't replacing writing into the ftrace ring buffer, but it is
> > just adding a way to write to someplace in addition to the ftrace ring
> > buffer. Where you still write to the ftrace ring buffer, but then you
> > can add a hook to copy someplace else as well.  
> 
> Yes, this is what this patch is trying to implement.
> 
> >
> > I was looking at this as a way that you are adding a replacement, not
> > only an addition to. If that's the case, I think there may be a easier
> > way to do this.  
> 
> I want to know how it would be in the easier way you mentioned here.
> 
> I was trying to add a ftrace_ops before, but with that way, I have to
> deal with a lot of trace or ring buffer stuff including the sort of
> discard things like you mentioned, which the existed ftrace code does.
> And if I choose to implement a new ftrace_ops, I'm only able to get
> the function trace support for STM and have to do many things which
> would be overlap with the current ftrace subsystem.

Adding your own ftrace_ops is a way for replacing, not just adding a
hook into.

> 
> So in order to reuse the existed code and architecture, I chose to add
> a trace_export interface for Ftrace subsytem, and in this way I'm
> using in this patch, I will get all supports of traces which are dealt
> with trace_function();

Actually, a trace_export() should only be called if there's been
something added. And that should be done with a static_key_false()
branch (which is dynamically enabled, and does not use a comparison
branch).

That is, something like this instead:

 	if (!call_filter_check_discard(call, entry, buffer, event)) {
		if (static_key_false(&ftrace_trace_exports_enabled))
			ftrace_exports(tr, event);
		__buffer_unlock_commit(buffer, event);
	}

Don't touch the current logic. Just have your code hook into the
ftrace_exports (note I use "ftrace_exports" and not trace_exports()
because it's the function tracer, which has stricter requirements than
events do. If you add a hook for tracepoints later, use trace_exports()
and have a different list for that).

> 
> Another benefit of adding a trace_export is, if there will be other
> subsystem would like to use the processed traces, it only needs to
> register a trace_export and provides a .write() function call back or
> together with a commit function, although from what I can see now
> .write() is enough since my purpose was the processed traces I don't
> need 'ring_buffer_event' so long as I had trace entries.

I'm saying if you don't mind the ring buffer being used along with
your own code (which seems to be what's happening), then just add a
call back to your code. Don't monkey with the current logic.

I think that will simplify things tremendously.

-- Steve

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