lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20160822105653.GI13596@dhcp22.suse.cz>
Date:   Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:56:53 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:     Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@...ppelsdorf.de>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, greg@...e.cz,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <a.miskiewicz@...il.com>,
        Ralf-Peter Rohbeck <Ralf-Peter.Rohbeck@...ntum.com>,
        Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.com>, Olaf Hering <olaf@...fle.de>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Joonsoo Kim <js1304@...il.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: OOM detection regressions since 4.7

On Mon 22-08-16 12:16:14, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
> On 2016.08.22 at 11:32 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > there have been multiple reports [1][2][3][4][5] about pre-mature OOM
> > killer invocations since 4.7 which contains oom detection rework. All of
> > them were for order-2 (kernel stack) alloaction requests failing because
> > of a high fragmentation and compaction failing to make any forward
> > progress. While investigating this we have found out that the compaction
> > just gives up too early. Vlastimil has been working on compaction
> > improvement for quite some time and his series [6] is already sitting
> > in mmotm tree. This already helps a lot because it drops some heuristics
> > which are more aimed at lower latencies for high orders rather than
> > reliability. Joonsoo has then identified further problem with too many
> > blocks being marked as unmovable [7] and Vlastimil has prepared a patch
> > on top of his series [8] which is also in the mmotm tree now.
> > 
> > That being said, the regression is real and should be fixed for 4.7
> > stable users. [6][8] was reported to help and ooms are no longer
> > reproducible. I know we are quite late (rc3) in 4.8 but I would vote
> > for mergeing those patches and have them in 4.8. For 4.7 I would go
> > with a partial revert of the detection rework for high order requests
> > (see patch below). This patch is really trivial. If those compaction
> > improvements are just too large for 4.8 then we can use the same patch
> > as for 4.7 stable for now and revert it in 4.9 after compaction changes
> > are merged.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20160731051121.GB307@x4
> 
> For the report [1] above:
> 
> markus@x4 linux % cat .config | grep CONFIG_COMPACTION
> # CONFIG_COMPACTION is not set

Hmm, without compaction and a heavy fragmentation then I am afraid we
cannot really do much. What is the reason to disable compaction in the
first place?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ