lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-Id: <20160902184759.GB3663@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:   Fri, 2 Sep 2016 11:47:59 -0700
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ux.intel.com>,
        USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
        Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Memory barrier needed with wake_up_process()?

On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 02:10:13PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> Paul, Peter, and Ingo:
> 
> This must have come up before, but I don't know what was decided.
> 
> Isn't it often true that a memory barrier is needed before a call to 
> wake_up_process()?  A typical scenario might look like this:
> 
> 	CPU 0
> 	-----
> 	for (;;) {
> 		set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> 		if (signal_pending(current))
> 			break;
> 		if (wakeup_flag)
> 			break;
> 		schedule();
> 	}
> 	__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
> 	wakeup_flag = 0;
> 
> 
> 	CPU 1
> 	-----
> 	wakeup_flag = 1;
> 	wake_up_process(my_task);
> 
> The underlying pattern is:
> 
> 	CPU 0				CPU 1
> 	-----				-----
> 	write current->state		write wakeup_flag
> 	smp_mb();
> 	read wakeup_flag		read my_task->state
> 
> where set_current_state() does the write to current->state and 
> automatically adds the smp_mb(), and wake_up_process() reads 
> my_task->state to see whether the task needs to be woken up.
> 
> The kerneldoc for wake_up_process() says that it has no implied memory
> barrier if it doesn't actually wake anything up.  And even when it
> does, the implied barrier is only smp_wmb, not smp_mb.
> 
> This is the so-called SB (Store Buffer) pattern, which is well known to
> require a full smp_mb on both sides.  Since wake_up_process() doesn't
> include smp_mb(), isn't it correct that the caller must add it
> explicitly?
> 
> In other words, shouldn't the code for CPU 1 really be:
> 
> 	wakeup_flag = 1;
> 	smp_mb();
> 	wake_up_process(task);
> 
> If my reasoning is correct, then why doesn't wake_up_process() include 
> this memory barrier automatically, the way set_current_state() does?  
> There could be an alternate version (__wake_up_process()) which omits 
> the barrier, just like __set_current_state().

A common case uses locking, in which case additional memory barriers
inside of the wait/wakeup functions are not needed.  Any accesses made
while holding the lock before invoking the wakeup function (e.g.,
wake_up()) are guaranteed to be seen after acquiring that same
lock following return from the wait function (e.g., wait_event()).
In this case, adding barriers to the wait and wakeup functions would
just add overhead.

But yes, this decision does mean that people using the wait/wakeup
functions without locking need to be more careful.  Something like
this:

	/* prior accesses. */
	smp_mb();
	wakeup_flag = 1;
	wake_up(...);

And on the other task:

	wait_event(... wakeup_flag == 1 ...);
	smp_mb();
	/* The waker's prior accesses will be visible here. */

Or am I missing your point?

						Thanx, Paul

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ