lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <32FABFC8-D606-4918-AAEF-FAA7982308A1@zytor.com>
Date:   Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:00 -0700
From:   "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>, Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com>
CC:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@...llahan.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" <x86@...nel.org>,
        Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
        David Vrabel <david.vrabel@...rix.com>,
        Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Huang Rui <ray.huang@....com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
        Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
        Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
        Aravind Gopalakrishnan <aravind.gopalakrishnan@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir_zapolskiy@...tor.com>,
        Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" 
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "moderated list:XEN HYPERVISOR INTERFACE" 
        <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] x86 Test and expose CPUID faulting capabilities in /proc/cpuinfo

On September 14, 2016 6:17:51 PM PDT, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Dave Hansen
>> <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/14/2016 02:01 PM, Kyle Huey wrote:
>
>>> Is any of this useful to optimize away at compile-time?  We have
>config
>>> options for when we're running as a guest, and this seems like a
>feature
>>> that isn't available when running on bare metal.
>>
>> On the contrary, this is only available when we're on bare metal.
>> Neither Xen nor KVM virtualize CPUID faulting (although KVM correctly
>> suppresses MSR_PLATFORM_INFO's report of support for it).
>
>KVM could easily support this.  If rr starts using it, I think KVM
>*should* add support, possibly even for older CPUs that don't support
>the feature in hardware.
>
>It's too bad that x86 doesn't give us the instruction bytes on a
>fault.  Otherwise we could lazily switch this feature.
>
>--Andy

You can "always" examine the instruction bytes in memory... have to make sure you properly consider the impact of race conditions though.
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse brevity and formatting.

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ