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Message-ID: <20161006021142.GC9806@dastard>
Date:   Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:11:42 +1100
From:   Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
Cc:     Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Joonsoo Kim <js1304@...il.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm, compaction: allow compaction for GFP_NOFS
 requests

On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 01:38:45PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 05-10-16 07:32:02, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 10:12:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> > > 
> > > compaction has been disabled for GFP_NOFS and GFP_NOIO requests since
> > > the direct compaction was introduced by 56de7263fcf3 ("mm: compaction:
> > > direct compact when a high-order allocation fails"). The main reason
> > > is that the migration of page cache pages might recurse back to fs/io
> > > layer and we could potentially deadlock. This is overly conservative
> > > because all the anonymous memory is migrateable in the GFP_NOFS context
> > > just fine.  This might be a large portion of the memory in many/most
> > > workkloads.
> > > 
> > > Remove the GFP_NOFS restriction and make sure that we skip all fs pages
> > > (those with a mapping) while isolating pages to be migrated. We cannot
> > > consider clean fs pages because they might need a metadata update so
> > > only isolate pages without any mapping for nofs requests.
> > > 
> > > The effect of this patch will be probably very limited in many/most
> > > workloads because higher order GFP_NOFS requests are quite rare,
> > 
> > You say they are rare only because you don't know how to trigger
> > them easily.  :/
> 
> true
> 
> > Try this:
> > 
> > # mkfs.xfs -f -n size=64k <dev>
> > # mount <dev> /mnt/scratch
> > # time ./fs_mark  -D  10000  -S0  -n  100000  -s  0  -L  32 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/0  -d  /mnt/scratch/1 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/2  -d  /mnt/scratch/3 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/4  -d  /mnt/scratch/5 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/6  -d  /mnt/scratch/7 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/8  -d  /mnt/scratch/9 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/10  -d  /mnt/scratch/11 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/12  -d  /mnt/scratch/13 \
> >         -d  /mnt/scratch/14  -d  /mnt/scratch/15
> 
> Does this simulate a standard or usual fs workload/configuration?  I am

Unfortunately, there was an era of cargo cult configuration tweaks
in the Ceph community that has resulted in a large number of
production machines with XFS filesystems configured this way. And a
lot of them store large numbers of small files and run under
significant sustained memory pressure.

I slowly working towards getting rid of these high order allocations
and replacing them with the equivalent number of single page
allocations, but I haven't got that (complex) change working yet.

> not questioning that higher order NOFS allocations are non-existent -
> that's why I came with the patch in the first place ;). My observation
> was that they are so rare that the visible effect of this patch might be
> quite low or even hard to notice.

Yup, it's a valid observation that would hold true for the majority
of users.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@...morbit.com

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