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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:55:53 -0500
From: ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc: Jann Horn <jann@...jh.net>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Linux Containers <containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
"linux-mm\@kvack.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REVIEW][PATCH] exec: Don't exec files the userns root can not read.
Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Jann Horn <jann@...jh.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:52:50AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> writes:
>>> > Simply ptrace yourself, exec the
>>> > program, and then dump the program out. A program that really wants
>>> > to be unreadable should have a stub: the stub is setuid and readable,
>>> > but all the stub does is to exec the real program, and the real
>>> > program should have mode 0500 or similar.
>>> >
>>> > ISTM the "right" check would be to enforce that the program's new
>>> > creds can read the program, but that will break backwards
>>> > compatibility.
>>>
>>> Last I looked I had the impression that exec of a setuid program kills
>>> the ptrace.
>>>
>>> If we are talking about a exec of a simple unreadable executable (aka
>>> something that sets undumpable but is not setuid or setgid). Then I
>>> agree it should break the ptrace as well and since those programs are as
>>> rare as hens teeth I don't see any problem with changing the ptrace behavior
>>> in that case.
>>
>> Nope. check_unsafe_exec() sets LSM_UNSAFE_* flags in bprm->unsafe, and then
>> the flags are checked by the LSMs and cap_bprm_set_creds() in commoncap.c.
>> cap_bprm_set_creds() just degrades the execution to a non-setuid-ish one,
>> and e.g. ptracers stay attached.
>
> I think you're right. I ought to be completely sure because I rewrote
> that code back in 2005 or so back when I thought kernel programming
> was only for the cool kids. It was probably my first kernel patch
> ever and it closed an awkward-to-exploit root hole. But it's been a
> while. (Too bad my second (IIRC) kernel patch was more mundane and
> fixed the mute button on "new" Lenovo X60-era laptops and spend
> several years in limbo...)
Ah yes and this is only a problem if the ptracer does not have
CAP_SYS_PTRACE.
If the tracer does not have sufficient permissions any opinions on
failing the exec or kicking out the ptracer? I am leaning towards failing
the exec as it is more obvious if someone cares. Dropping the ptracer
could be a major mystery.
Eric
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