linux-kernel - Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ?

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Message-ID: <7d814ee3-3ee0-df39-0066-ea61df59939c@infradead.org>
Date:   Tue, 1 Nov 2016 08:52:39 -0700
From:   Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>
To:     Boris Barbulovski <bbarbulovski@...il.com>
Cc:     Jason Vas Dias <jason.vas.dias@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
        Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira@...el.com>,
        Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>
Subject: Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with
 linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ?

On 11/01/16 05:17, Boris Barbulovski wrote:
> hi Randy,
> 
> Frankly I don't have answer to your questions, but I did reproduced
> the issues you described.
> 
> And found that:
> 
> * `Show Debug Info` menu item was(created, but) not added to the menu.
> * if the `showDebug` setting was set to true, the the initial widgets
> state will not be set correctly.
> 
> I did a patch of those issues fixed.
> 
> If you choose to keep the `showDebug` stuff in, you can checkout/test the patch.

Your patch works ... but I don't find the Show Debug Info option to be
useful, so I would just remove it completely.

anyone else have views on this?

thanks.

> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org> wrote:
>> On 10/17/16 10:28, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>> Boris or Thiago,
>>>
>>> Any comments, suggestions, or patches about this?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>
>> Hi Boris and Thiago,
>>
>> Other than you patch of Oct. 17 (which needs to be added to linux-kconfig for
>> linux-next testing), the OP (Jason) mentioned that the xconfig "Help, Introduction"
>> mentions a toggle called "Show Debug Info" but there is no such option under
>> the Option menu.
>>
>> The qconf.cc source file does contain a boolean called _showDebug. How is it
>> used?  It appears to only be settable by editing the .config/kernel.org/qconf.conf
>> file:
>> qconf\help\showDebug=false
>> and changing that 'false' to 'true'. Doing that still does not show any debug options
>> in the xconfig windows. What it appears to do is to highlight (via html) the kconfig
>> keywords so that the user can click on them, but when I do that, nothing useful
>> happens (they just disappear!).
>>
>> So the questions are basically:
>>
>> 1. should be Help/Introduction text be cleaned up so that it does not refer to
>> Show Debug Options? or should that toggle be reinstated?
>>
>> 2. how is /showDebug used? should it be documented? should it be fixed?
>> should it be deleted?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>> On 10/15/16 04:09, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>>  Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told -
>>>>  there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists
>>>>  at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window
>>>>  notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to
>>>>  do these days to view more info ?
>>>>
>>>>  I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig  /
>>>>  using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable).
>>>>
>>>>  Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select
>>>>  View -> Option Documentation  or press <F1> over an option to view the
>>>>  documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was
>>>> correct at
>>>>  startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand
>>>>  side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the
>>>>  documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged.
>>>>
>>>>  Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says :
>>>>    "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the
>>>> dependencies..."
>>>>  but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like
>>>>  it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ?
>>>>  why don't I see one ?  Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put
>>>>  an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks anyway for the info.


-- 
~Randy