Date:   Wed, 2 Nov 2016 23:10:41 -0700
From:   Matt Ranostay <matt@...ostay.consulting>
To:     Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl>
Cc:     Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jonathan Cameron <jic23@...nel.org>,
        Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@...afoo.de>,
        Attila Kinali <attila@...ali.ch>, Marek Vasut <marex@...x.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] v4l2 support for thermopile devices

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Matt Ranostay <matt@...ostay.consulting> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl> wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> On 28/10/16 22:14, Matt Ranostay wrote:
>>>
>>> So want to toss a few thoughts on adding support for thermopile
>>> devices (could be used for FLIR Lepton as well) that output pixel
>>> data.
>>> These typically aren't DMA'able devices since they are low speed
>>> (partly to limiting the functionality to be in compliance with ITAR)
>>> and data is piped over i2c/spi.
>>>
>>> My question is that there doesn't seem to be an other driver that
>>> polls frames off of a device and pushes it to the video buffer, and
>>> wanted to be sure that this doesn't currently exist somewhere.
>>
>>
>> Not anymore, but if you go back to kernel 3.6 then you'll find this driver:
>>
>> drivers/media/video/bw-qcam.c
>>
>> It was for a grayscale parallel port webcam (which explains why it was
>> removed in 3.7 :-) ), and it used polling to get the pixels.
>
> Yikes parallel port, but I'll take a look at that for some reference :)


So does anyone know of any software that is using V4L2_PIX_FMT_Y12
currently? Want to test my driver but seems there isn't anything that
uses that format (ffmpeg, mplayer, etc).

Raw data seems correct but would like to visualize it :). Suspect I'll
need to write a test case application though


>
>>
>>> Also more importantly does the mailing list thinks it belongs in v4l2?
>>
>>
>> I think it fits. It's a sensor, just with a very small resolution and
>> infrared
>> instead of visible light.
>>
>>> We already came up the opinion on the IIO list that it doesn't belong
>>> in that subsystem since pushing raw pixel data to a buffer is a bit
>>> hacky. Also could be generically written with regmap so other devices
>>> (namely FLIR Lepton) could be easily supported.
>>>
>>> Need some input for the video pixel data types, which the device we
>>> are using (see datasheet links below) is outputting pixel data in
>>> little endian 16-bit of which a 12-bits signed value is used.  Does it
>>> make sense to do some basic processing on the data since greyscale is
>>> going to look weird with temperatures under 0C degrees? Namely a cold
>>> object is going to be brighter than the hottest object it could read.
>>
>>
>>> Or should a new V4L2_PIX_FMT_* be defined and processing done in
>>> software?
>>
>>
>> I would recommend that. It's no big deal, as long as the new format is
>> documented.
>>
>>> Another issue is how to report the scaling value of 0.25 C
>>> for each LSB of the pixels to the respecting recording application.
>>
>>
>> Probably through a read-only control, but I'm not sure.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>         Hans
>>
>>>
>>> Datasheet:
>>> http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Panasonic%20Sensors%20PDFs/Grid-EYE_AMG88.pdf
>>> Datasheet:
>>> https://eewiki.net/download/attachments/13599167/Grid-EYE%20SPECIFICATIONS%28Reference%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1380660426690&api=v2
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Matt
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