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Date:   Thu, 10 Nov 2016 11:47:57 +0000
From:   "Levy, Amir (Jer)" <amir.jer.levy@...el.com>
To:     Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
CC:     "andreas.noever@...il.com" <andreas.noever@...il.com>,
        "bhelgaas@...gle.com" <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        "corbet@....net" <corbet@....net>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        "mario_limonciello@...l.com" <mario_limonciello@...l.com>,
        thunderbolt-linux <thunderbolt-linux@...el.com>,
        "Westerberg, Mika" <mika.westerberg@...el.com>,
        "Winkler, Tomas" <tomas.winkler@...el.com>,
        "Zhang, Xiong Y" <xiong.y.zhang@...el.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v9 7/8] thunderbolt: Networking doc

On Wed, Nov 9 2016, 06:00 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 04:20:07PM +0200, Amir Levy wrote:
> > Adding Thunderbolt(TM) networking documentation.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Amir Levy <amir.jer.levy@...el.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/00-INDEX                   |   2 +
> >  Documentation/thunderbolt/networking.txt | 132
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> Note, new files should be in .rst format, and live in the new subdirectory for
> them (somewhere in Documentation, don't know off the top of my head...)
> 
> >  2 files changed, 134 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/thunderbolt/networking.txt
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/00-INDEX b/Documentation/00-INDEX index
> > 3acc4f1..0239e68 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/00-INDEX
> > +++ b/Documentation/00-INDEX
> > @@ -440,6 +440,8 @@ this_cpu_ops.txt
> >  	- List rationale behind and the way to use this_cpu operations.
> >  thermal/
> >  	- directory with information on managing thermal issues (CPU/temp)
> > +thunderbolt/
> > +	- directory with info regarding Thunderbolt.
> >  trace/
> >  	- directory with info on tracing technologies within linux
> > unaligned-memory-access.txt
> 
> This change is probably not needed.
> 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/thunderbolt/networking.txt
> > b/Documentation/thunderbolt/networking.txt
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 0000000..88d1c12
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/thunderbolt/networking.txt
> > @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@
> > +Intel Thunderbolt(TM) Networking driver
> > +=======================================
> > +
> > +Copyright(c) 2013 - 2016 Intel Corporation.
> > +
> > +Contact Information:
> > +Intel Thunderbolt mailing list <thunderbolt-software@...ts.01.org>
> > +Edited by Amir Levy <amir.jer.levy@...el.com>
> > +
> > +Overview
> > +========
> > +
> > +* The Thunderbolt Networking driver enables peer to peer networking
> > +on non-Apple
> > +  platforms running Linux.
> > +
> > +* The driver creates a virtual Ethernet device that enables computer
> > +to computer
> > +  communication over the Thunderbolt cable.
> > +
> > +* Using Thunderbolt Networking you can perform high speed file
> > +transfers between
> > +  computers, perform PC migrations and/or set up small workgroups
> > +with shared
> > +  storage without compromising any other Thunderbolt functionality.
> > +
> > +* The driver is located in drivers/thunderbolt/icm.
> > +
> > +* This driver will function only on non-Apple platforms with firmware
> > +based
> > +  Thunderbolt controllers that support Thunderbolt Networking.
> > +
> > +  +----------------+            +----------------+
> > +  |Host 1          |            |Host 2          |
> > +  |                |            |                |
> > +  |   +-------+    |            |    +-------+   |
> > +  |   |Network|    |            |    |Network|   |
> > +  |   |Stack  |    |            |    |Stack  |   |
> > +  |   +-------+    |            |    +-------+   |
> > +  |       ^        |            |        ^       |
> > +  |       |        |            |        |       |
> > +  |       v        |            |        v       |
> > +  | +-----------+  |            |  +-----------+ |
> > +  | |Thunderbolt|  |            |  |Thunderbolt| |
> > +  | |Networking |  |            |  |Networking | |
> > +  | |Driver     |  |            |  |Driver     | |
> > +  | +-----------+  |            |  +-----------+ |
> > +  |       ^        |            |        ^       |
> > +  |       |        |            |        |       |
> > +  |       v        |            |        v       |
> > +  | +-----------+  |            |  +-----------+ |
> > +  | |Thunderbolt|  |            |  |Thunderbolt| |
> > +  | |Controller |<-+------------+->|Controller | |
> > +  | |with ICM   |  |            |  |with ICM   | |
> > +  | |enabled    |  |            |  |enabled    | |
> > +  | +-----------+  |            |  +-----------+ |
> > +  +----------------+            +----------------+
> > +
> > +Files
> > +=====
> > +
> > +The following files are located in the drivers/thunderbolt/icm directory:
> > +
> > +- icm_nhi.c/h:	These files allow communication with the firmware
> (Intel
> > +  Connection Manager) based controller. They also create an interface
> > +for
> > +  netlink communication with a user space daemon.
> > +
> > +- net.c/net.h:	These files implement the 'eth' interface for the
> > +  Thunderbolt(TM) Networking.
> 
> You don't have to list the files, right?
> 
> > +
> > +Interface to User Space
> > +=======================
> > +
> > +The interface to the user space module is implemented through a Generic
> Netlink.
> 
> Huh?  Not a normal network device?
> 
> > +This is the communications protocol between the Thunderbolt driver
> > +and the user space application.
> 
> What userspace application?
> 
> > +Note that this interface mediates user space communication with ICM.
> 
> What is ICM?
> 
> > +(Existing Linux tools can be used to configure the network
> > +interface.)
> 
> Why aren't they sufficient for everything here?
> 
> > +
> > +The Thunderbolt Daemon utilizes this interface to communicate with the
> driver.
> 
> What "Thunderbolt Daemon"?  What is "this"?
> 
> > +To be accessed by the user space module, both kernel and user space
> > +modules have to register with the same GENL_NAME.
> 
> What userspace modules?
> 
> How do you set GENL_NAME?  What is that?
> 
> > +For the purpose of the Thunderbolt Network driver, "thunderbolt" is
> used.
> 
> What do you mean?
> 
> > +The registration is done at driver initialization time for all
> > +instances of the Thunderbolt controllers.
> 
> Who does this?
> 
> > The communication is carried through pre-defined
> > +Thunderbolt messages. Each specific message has a callback function
> > +that is called when the related message is received.
> 
> Is this the internal structure of the driver?  If so, why not just put it all in the
> code itself and build the documentation from it?
> 
> > +
> > +Message Definitions:
> > +* NHI_CMD_UNSPEC: Not used.
> > +* NHI_CMD_SUBSCRIBE: Subscription request from daemon to driver to
> > +open the
> > +  communication channel.
> > +* NHI_CMD_UNSUBSCRIBE: Request from daemon to driver to
> unsubscribe
> > +and
> > +  to close communication channel.
> > +* NHI_CMD_QUERY_INFORMATION: Request information from the driver
> such
> > +as
> > +  driver version, FW version offset, number of ports in the
> > +controller
> > +  and DMA port.
> > +* NHI_CMD_MSG_TO_ICM: Message from user space module to FW.
> > +* NHI_CMD_MSG_FROM_ICM: Response from FW to user space module.
> > +* NHI_CMD_MAILBOX: Message that uses mailbox mechanism such as
> FW
> > +policy
> > +  changes or disconnect path.
> > +* NHI_CMD_APPROVE_TBT_NETWORKING: Request from user space
> module to
> > +FW to
> > +  establish path.
> > +* NHI_CMD_ICM_IN_SAFE_MODE: Indication that the FW has entered
> safe mode.
> > +
> > +Communication with Intel Connection Manager(ICM) Firmware
> >
> +=========================================================
> > +
> > +There are several circular buffers in Thunderbolt each using Direct
> > +Memory Access (DMA).
> 
> Again, internal documentation?
> 
> Isn't this just a "normal" network device?  Why document any of this in a
> separate way?  What can a user do with this?  Who is the audience of this
> file?
> 
> still confused,
> 
> greg k-h

This document was one of the suggestions we got from internal-Intel kernel developers.
If you think it isn't needed, I'll remove it from next patch set.

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